IMO .30-30 is a great caliber rifle for shorter ranges, no more than 150 yards. i did read somewhere that a company was trying to market ballistic tip ammo for the .30-30 to extend it's range. however, i have to disagree with the comment of more deer being killed with it than any other firearm. i believe the .22 calibers hold that title. being the .22 calibers are cheap and the poachers choice. just my opinion though.