I used to be a scope guy.....I have a 1300 that would shoot off center, and I could not make myself hold off of the gobblers head...so I put a scope on it and choked it down to where I was throwing a pretty dang tight pattern out there.....After Spring Gobblers season last year, i got the hankering for something different and bought a Win Super X2 and put the tru-glo adjustable sights on it and it shoots dead nuts.....so I'm going to have to re-adjust to not having the scope...