RB,

Well as I said in the other thread, I have not had the durability problems some others have had with them. I'm careful as to how I pull them out of 3D targets, but I've seen pepople yanking on them and twisting them around like a rubber band, so I often wonder.

Of course due to their construction style some hit types will be more detrimental. For example, I put some through my bag target last week (by accident), and they stuck in the oak tree behind it...I ended up bending the tips trying to get them out (they were that deep). With the IC carbons they might have survived and they might not have..depends on the brand..most would have split at the insert had the insert pushed back into the shaft, or more commonly internal cracks in the weave (a "bend" ) which will affect spine, and hence grouping ability.

Generally if say aluminums on a scale of 1 to 5 for durabilty are a 2. Then many of the IC carbons and the ACC's are a 3.75 to 4. Some of the IC carbons (Goldtips especially, though I have heard of wierd happnestance with newer Goldtip shafting from my dealer frend who started carrying them for 2K2) and pultrudeds would garner a 5.

In any event, I find the increased accuracy and consistency more than worth it...no worries about flyers, no worries about weight, straightness or spine, and no worries when I go to buy a new dozen whether that new dozen will be 10-20 grains lighter or heavier on average or the spine will be slightly different than the last dozen I bought, so I don't have to re-tune and re-sight.

My 2 coppers

JeffB <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>