and everyone cries about the fact that there aren't alot of big bucks around. hmmm, wonder why. I declared war on the doe population this year because it is truely unruly. I have been practicing my own qdm for the past two seasons and this year it paid off. I did see the biggest buck I have seen in va. let five others go, and all the button bucks too. kid up the street shot two bucks I was hoping were going to make it through, and that got me, but hey, it's a deer and I have to understand that. he was happy, and no longer hunts there, so, next year is the beginning of a whole new qdm year...gotta love starting over. one other thing that gets me about folks like the one I mentioned...these big does are the ones that bust 90% of us. shoot them! they are the hardest to kill. a doe with two, and three seasons behind her is very hard to kill. I finally shot a doe this year that was at least 4.5 yo. missed her two years ago. smart girl. they are the ones that educate all the other deer.