i agree....the HUNT is what makes a gobbler better then others....though Spurs, beard legnth, and wieght are also important as in the "trophy" aspect, it really doesnt matter.....its kidna hard to see and tell how long the spurs and beards REALLY are....not like antlers where you can see how big they are ect..and decide to pass....sure a short beard can be noticed.....to me turkey huntings all about the excitement and thrill of the hunt....no deer hunt or any other hunt can compare to the good days when you can really work the birds and have them going nuts.....but if a guy kills a 12inch beard 1.5 inch spurred gobbler that is a true trophy...but shoots it outa of the tree...and i call in a gobbler with an 8 inch beard and 7/8th inch spurs and had to work him and set up on him and call him in....in my eyes MY gobbler is better...though it may be legal....thats just not my style and i think it ruins the hunt.....sure you tag a bird and get the beard and spurs......but whats the story? oh ya...heard him gobbling and walked under him and BOOM tagged him and left......just my view on things.......i just love turkey hunting....