If this sport wasn't challenging it wouldn't peek my interest!If the bird has a long beard,weighs20 plus lbs,and trophy like spurs "awesome"but if he didn't so what!!Some of the most memorable hunts I've ever had were dealing with 2 year old elusive call shy birds and jakes for that matter,especially in my early turkey huntin years!What I always get a kick out of BT is those individuals who like to talk about the birds in there neck of the woods are the toughest to hunt anywhere!!!True trophys......[:-][&:]