That makes me tired just thinking about it.[8D][8D] I gun hunt a couple days a year in NY. More social affairs than serious hunting. BUT, we do most of that from the ground. The other 50-60 days of hunting are spent from above. I do occasionally set up in a ditch, or blow down or hedgerow when the situation calls for no stand. I've been successful at it too. Wind direction and movement are much more critical.