thenuge15,

I'm not sure by your post if you tiethe extra "safety knots" or not. I personally don't, I tie mine just like bigbulls does. I also like a very small loop and I cut mine to 4in then I burn the ends so the actual string is just a shade under 4in. I then tie it anound a served on nock.

If you can picture this in your mind, after I tie one end to the bow string and get it pretty snug, I lay the string loop along the bow string to the spot I want to tie the other end. I then tie the other end. It takes some time because there is not alot of material to work with but when both ends are tied there isonly enough room to put a screwdriver blade between the string loop and the bow string. I pull slightly with the screwdriver shaft (round one) to get enough room to attach my release. I then slowly start to pull it tight with my release checking to make sure the knot is tight and the burned ends are "locked" in.

When it's all done and tight, there will be just enough room for my release and a nocked arrow.

My original question was how to you get a loop that short without first tying the loop on then tying the "safety knots" and burning. This would have to be doneafter the loop is attached.