I had success while they were put out1 time with tinks 69 from walmart,1 timewith still-steamin,1 time with code blue,0 with trails end,0 with tinks 69 gel,and about 3 times with 200 proof.The only time I am 100 percent sure that is what worked is when a spike came in bird doggin' and came right to me..That was with the code blue.