red allison, I also workin the industry with one of the larger wholesale distributors in the us, i will call you soon to see if i can send you a catalogue. yes it is awsome for the reps to come in with ruger, berreta, code blue, wildlife research, tom wiley,smith and wesson, bushmaster and etc.being in sales i am able to meet most any of the manu comp. and the reps that are in the industry. next month i will be going to ms. and helping many of them put on a deer expo for one of my accounts. now back to bsa, many of my dealers love bsa because their customers bring the scopes back in for repair. spend yourmoney on goodoptics.