you know i was told by the vp of something or other that their strings come in from the string manufacturer untwistes and they twist them to length. that means there are no twists under the serving, and i would about bet anything that they are made overseas or in mexico. straightarrow, i left nothing out and didn't exaggerate, that's the bad part. you make strings, you know how to ask questions, you call them up and get a finished length, or try and find someone there, anyone there, who has any idea what they are. go ahead and ask them if the lengths they print on their limbs are finished or untwisted - and the twists they put it only occur where there is no serving. there's a big debate over this, but you know as well as i do that those strings will twist under there over time until every thing starts evening out, driving a tubeless peep shooter nuts.