Ya know Roskoe, just about the time I think that I got it all rolling, something happens. I have decided to hold off on that 60 grain. I inspected some of my loads and tried to chamber them, I crunched the shoulder down on half of them I loaded. What was this from? I think it might have been too much push on either the bullet seating die or the resizing die. I dont know. I gotta look at this again. Could it have been the crimping die? I am sure it is my fault, I just need to go through it again and see what happened. Fill me in. EJ