Yep the Stoney Point is what i was looking at. Big all the guns Im gonna reload for shoot factory ammo very well....dont ask me why I wanna reload...I just do...lol. I think its mainly to shoot more and try some different bullets, if I can at least equal the accuracy Im getting from factory rounds I will be a happy camper. So I dont have real high expectations. I am just getting started and am still rounding up equipment. My 270 has a very loose chamber but it still is the best grouping gun I have for some reason. I guess the only one that really doesnt group tight is my old 243.

Bascially I was just wondering if that longer bullet seat was a help or hype. Im sure I will try it sometime eventually..just tryin to cut the clutter. One good thing is I havent threw a piece of brass away in the last 10 years...even though i didnt reload then I knew I would one of these days. While I am at it here I have a couple of older manuals but what is the best one of the bunch out there to buy? Or is it like powder? Buy all ya can afford cause you'll probably use it someday?