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Old 08-18-2004, 08:33 AM   #1
 
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Is ok to put out my 10-10-10 fertilizer the same day I plant my clover seed?

What clover seed is the best, red, white, ladino? I dont want to spend $140 on the whitetail extreme if I dont have to. My PH is about 6.0.
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Old 08-18-2004, 04:51 PM   #2
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I would spread the fertilizer before you plant. Ladino is probably the best clover and you should get your pH up to 7 before you plant.

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Old 08-18-2004, 07:08 PM   #3
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could you put out P and K instead? you can buy it for real cheap at your local co-op.

i don't think clover needs much N, if any, at planting. but i could be wrong.
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Old 08-18-2004, 08:21 PM   #4
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psandhu is right about Nitrogen -
Clover should need very little, and the weeds thrive on it. If the plot is mostly an annual plot for deer attraction - I wouldn't worry about too much N. Don't be surprised if weeds grow well though.

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Old 08-19-2004, 06:57 AM   #5
 
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psandhu,

What is P and K? Are you saying the 10-10-10 has too much N?
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P is potash
K is potassium
n is nitrogen

that is where the vaules of 10-10-10 come from. legumes will produce their own nitrogen and by adding it to the soil you'll promote weed growth. The nitrogen will not benefit the clover at all.

The first # in 10-10-10 represents the amount of Nitrogen(N) in the fertilizer. you'll want one with the lowest first number as possible

http://www.fertilizer.com/university/fertuniv02.htm

this link my help you to get a better understanding of what's in fertilizer.
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Adams, Thanks for the info. I hope I can find one with the lowest nitrogen.


"Potash" ??? It not just for breakfast anymore
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Old 08-19-2004, 10:28 AM   #8
 
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Hi

10-10-10

Mean that in your'e bags you have

10% of N by weight
10% of P2O5 by weight
10% of K2O by weight

For a 50 pounds of fertilizer you have 5 pounds of N, 5 pounds of P2O5 etc....

Don't forget, the soil analyses give you're results in ppm or kg/Ha of P or K alone.

To convert kg/ha of P in kg/Ha of P2O5 you have to multiply the P weight by 2.29
To convert kg/Ha of P in Kg/Ha of K2O you have to multiply the K weight by 1.2.

Be sure that the requirement of your'e nutriments for a specific plant are expressed by weight of P2O5 or weight of P alone....

For a new field of alfalfa or clover you can add an extra 35-50 pounds of N/acre.

Info. website

http://ndsuext.nodak.edu/extpubs/soilfert.htm


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Old 08-19-2004, 12:07 PM   #9
 
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Yann,

Welcome aboard! That's a great link. Where were you six months ago
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Old 08-19-2004, 02:54 PM   #10
 
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Thanks for the input guys. Its been a big help.

I have purchased Whitetail Extreme, Imperial Clover, Biologic green patch and a regular ole bag of white clover from the co-op. I have several different hunting/plots that I am trying to get in this weekend. My test is to see how each of these different crops will do. i.e. is the $$ worth it for the premium brands.

These places are tough to get to so I am doing the bagged lime thing. I would guess that my three plots are about a total of 1.5 acres. I already have 400 pounds of 10-10-10 from another job. Should I still get some different fertilizer or will this do? Thanks
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