logo
 

Go Back   HuntingNet.com Forums > General Hunting Forums > Wildlife Management / Food Plots

Wildlife Management / Food Plots This forum is about all wildlife management including deer, food plots, land management, predators etc.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-19-2006, 09:31 PM   #1
Fork Horn
 
Illini_Sportsman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Greenville, IL
Posts: 287
Send a message via Yahoo to Illini_Sportsman
Default Attracting Deer - Clover, Wheat or Oats?

I'm trying to decide what type of no-till small food plot I want to put down in September for the archery opener. I've narrowed it down to BioLogic Hot Spot, which contains winter peas and buckwheat, and possibly some brassicas. OR Whitetail Institute Sweet Spot which claims to have 3 different types of clover and a few other types of wheat. In general, which of these sounds more attractive to a deer? I was under the impression that clover is probably the most attractive forage, is that correct? Also, should I mix in some oats with whatever I decide to go with just for some variety, or would it not be good to mix store-bought oat seed with these blends?
__________________
Brown is down.
Illini_Sportsman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2006, 10:05 PM   #2
Nontypical Buck
 
farm hunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: cazenovia, NY USA
Posts: 2,962
Default RE: Attracting Deer - Clover, Wheat or Oats?

clover takes too long to establish (at least in my soils) for a fall planting - that you plan to hunt over that year.

The Brassicas should be planted in Late July at the latest for a fall plot.

Wheat, Buck forage oats and Rye can be planted right through Sept. even up north with good results in Late October. I'd go with one of these options if its a Kill Plot. You can overseed it with clover - and have clover for next fall - thats always a good option.

FH
__________________
http://foodplot.blogspot.com/
farm hunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2006, 12:01 AM   #3
Fork Horn
 
Illini_Sportsman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Greenville, IL
Posts: 287
Send a message via Yahoo to Illini_Sportsman
Default RE: Attracting Deer - Clover, Wheat or Oats?

I wonder why this Whitetail Institute Sweet Spot stuff says it contains 3 types of clovers, then? It claims it only takes a week or so to germinate. Would you like a link, or are you familiar with the stuff?
__________________
Brown is down.
Illini_Sportsman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2006, 08:53 AM   #4
Fork Horn
 
1sagittarius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: SE Wisconsin
Posts: 448
Default RE: Attracting Deer - Clover, Wheat or Oats?

Your winter wheat/oat - clover idea for a fall planting looks the best. Try to stick to white clovers rather than mixes with alot of cheap red clover. Red clover germinates well and makes the plot look good quickly, but the deer prefer white clovers.

The wheat-oats will provide fall forage - oats will freeze out, then wheat provides spring forage.... all the while protecting the clover as it gets started taking advantage of cool weather and fall and spring rains. The Wheat dies after seeding out, and you are left with a clover plot that will last 2-3 years with minimal care.

Concentrate on killing grass and weeds first with glyphosate (roundup) before planting.
__________________
"The real problem is not how we shall handle the deer in this emergency. The real problem is one of human managment. Wild life managment is comparatively easy; human management difficult." Aldo Leopold, March 1943
1sagittarius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2006, 01:47 PM   #5
Fork Horn
 
Illini_Sportsman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Greenville, IL
Posts: 287
Send a message via Yahoo to Illini_Sportsman
Default RE: Attracting Deer - Clover, Wheat or Oats?

sagitrarius, PM sent
__________________
Brown is down.
Illini_Sportsman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2006, 07:09 PM   #6
Nontypical Buck
 
IL_ray_phillips's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Flora, IL
Posts: 1,231
Default RE: Attracting Deer - Clover, Wheat or Oats?

I have tried various food plots around my properties and always seem to end up hunting bean fields around the opener. The deer seem to hit the clover and brassica in late dec. - Feb. when the corn and beans are cleaned up.
__________________
Elm River Outfitters
www.illinoisdeerhunters.com
Pro-Staff Wildreality.tv
IL_ray_phillips is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2006, 07:17 PM   #7
Fork Horn
 
Illini_Sportsman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Greenville, IL
Posts: 287
Send a message via Yahoo to Illini_Sportsman
Default RE: Attracting Deer - Clover, Wheat or Oats?

So I guess my new question becomes, is there anything I can plant in September (opener is Oct 1) no-till that will draw the deer away from the corn, beans and mast cropsin October/November and attract them to my stand?
__________________
Brown is down.
Illini_Sportsman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2006, 09:39 PM   #8
Nontypical Buck
 
farm hunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: cazenovia, NY USA
Posts: 2,962
Default RE: Attracting Deer - Clover, Wheat or Oats?

Quote:
So I guess my new question becomes, is there anything I can plant in September (opener is Oct 1) no-till that will draw the deer away from the corn, beans and mast cropsin October/November and attract them to my stand?
No - 3 weeks is not enough time for any plot to develop enough to pull deer away from known, established food sources.

Bait maybe?

FH

__________________
http://foodplot.blogspot.com/
farm hunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2006, 09:54 PM   #9
Typical Buck
 
fshafly2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Nanjemoy, MD
Posts: 988
Default RE: Attracting Deer - Clover, Wheat or Oats?

Quote:
ORIGINAL: Illini_Sportsman

So I guess my new question becomes, is there anything I can plant in September (opener is Oct 1) no-till that will draw the deer away from the corn, beans and mast cropsin October/November and attract them to my stand?
If you want to experiment, try austrian winter peas. A small plot on my farm this spring drew heavy attention with young soybeans nearby.
-fsh
__________________
The gods do not subtract from the span of a bowhunter's life the hours spent in a treestand...
fshafly2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2006, 12:39 AM   #10
Fork Horn
 
Illini_Sportsman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Greenville, IL
Posts: 287
Send a message via Yahoo to Illini_Sportsman
Default RE: Attracting Deer - Clover, Wheat or Oats?

Really? That is what's in BioLogic Hot Spot.
__________________
Brown is down.
Illini_Sportsman is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Planting beans and wheat and oats Blueditch42 Wildlife Management / Food Plots 2 09-10-2007 09:57 AM
wheat,turnips and oats Blueditch42 Wildlife Management / Food Plots 3 08-27-2007 12:33 PM
Winter Wheat or Oats Antler Addict Wildlife Management / Food Plots 5 05-31-2006 11:24 PM
Winter Wheat, Rye, Oats??? YEXAS STYLIN Wildlife Management / Food Plots 4 10-12-2004 12:01 AM
Winter Wheat or Oats??? captain backstrap Bowhunting 1 07-27-2004 12:12 AM

 

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:29 AM.