In the perfect world.... (another ethics poll)

North Texan · 05-02-2007, 09:26 PM

You are King of hunting Utopia. You control Utopia's large deer herd. You make the hunting laws. Which, if any, of the following will you disallow or limit hunting with/overbecause you thinkit is unethical? Why?

Of those activities you do not select, what makes them ethical?

For clarification - "Trophy" hunting is hunting by people only for the largest trophy animals. "Meat" hunting is hunting by people concerned with filling their tags, with no regard to the size/age of the deer.

eatsleephunt · 05-02-2007, 09:44 PM

I don't have a problem with any of it. I could manufacture a situation for each item which would make it unsatisfactory though. However, since I am king, I'll allow it all on a case-by-case basis subject to my review and specific approval.

BigTiny · 05-02-2007, 10:46 PM

I voted for dogs. I did it because last year on the first day of dog season I was waiting out a buck in a tree line when the guy on the adjacent property let loose what sounded like 10 dogs in the woods. They ran through very close to me and spooked the deer I was waiting on.

buckhunter14 · 05-03-2007, 05:11 AM

I do not like High Fences, and Certain weapons. The high fences is unfair chase for me. The deer has all his sense to fight against you but a high fence means he couldn't run away. Certain weapons would be limited for saftey reasons.

trailer · 05-03-2007, 05:15 AM

Since I"™m king, I would make it interesting and more of a challange. Baiting , High fence , dogs and semi-autos would be disallowed.

#1- I see no need for baiting if food plots would be allowed.

#2- High fence is made to keep domestic animals in , not wild game

#3- Dogs can spoil the hunt for other hunter as mentioned. If a drive is the game, let a party of hunters do the push.

#4- No semi-auto , why ? just because I am king...

cr422 · 05-03-2007, 06:20 AM

I don't really have a problem with any of it.

When it comes to trophies though, I think some consideration should begiven to where taken.Taking a trophyon a game ranch is gonna be easierthan on your brother-in-law's 640 acre corn farm, which is gonna be easier than public land in competition with thousands of other guys who don't have access to private land.

npaden · 05-03-2007, 08:34 AM

I voted against trophy and meat hunting simply based on your definitions. If you hunt exclusively for large mature bucks then does will overpopulate. If you hunt for meat simply for "filling their tags, with no regard to the size/age of the deer"you are probably going to be shooting a lot of immature bucks.

I also voted againsthigh fences. I don't have problems with them where they are allowed but in Utopia you won't have the need for high fences to keep the low life bums out and we will have QDM on the entire place so no need to worry about a high fence.

NEW61375 · 05-03-2007, 08:42 AM

Where is the option for none? I wouldn't want to disallow any form of legal hunting or legal hunting accessory, whether I like certain styles or not is irrelevant if I'm against it and disallow it I am basically part anti. Whether it is anti-high fence hunting, anti dog hunting, anti stand hunting, oranti bait hunting. They all contain two words I don't like(when used together),anti hunting, and I would not want my reign as king to be associated with that term, no matter what the word in between themhappens to be. But you can fetch me someslow roasted venison tenderloin, some squash casserole, and some skin on mashed potatoes. I'll be washing that down with a nice 96 Penfolds "Bin 407" Cabernet Sauvignon(wait a second, I'm king, why am I stil drinking $30 a bottle wine?) Cancel the wine, bring me a 12 pack of Budweiser and a bottle of Cuervo "1800" I think I might fight the court jester later(he's really not that funny and he's been plucking my nerves lately).

il coyote · 05-03-2007, 09:11 AM

No Bait, Fences, Dogs, or Foodplots(depending on other factors).

Any deer you wish to shoot, do it. One man's 'preference' does not trump another.

Stands, blinds, camo, scent control(or lack thereof) is all acceptable.

Being King, I control who comes in and who doesn't. I am a big advocate of other hunters not infringing on others. People MUST respect anothers space.

il coyote · 05-03-2007, 09:16 AM

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Where is the option for none? I wouldn't want to disallow any form of legal hunting or legal hunting accessory,

What he's saying is that it's only legal if YOU say so. This is a chance to step out of the 'if-it's-legal-I-have-no-problem-with-it' cloud and actualy give an opinion on YOUR ethics.