logo
 

Go Back   HuntingNet.com Forums > General Hunting Forums > Upland Bird Hunting

Upland Bird Hunting Whether you are into pheasants or grouse, quail or chukars, find out what you need to know here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-26-2009, 08:48 PM   #1
Fork Horn
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 177
Default Bird Dog Training

It just dawned on me (and I'm somewhat new to the serious bird dog training/owning set) that while I can generally hunt my dog on a game preserve here in Virginia (or for that matter in Maryland or in Georgia where my other home is) only from September through April, I can technically train my dog all year round on pen raised birds (pigeons, chuckar, pheasant, quail, etc) so long as they are banded and I am on either private land or at a designated dog training area (on public land, at least in Maryland) and I possess a hunting license and a training license.

So, wouldn't that allow me to take my dog out, over the summer, at a game preserve and "train" him on live birds that he flushes and I shoot???

Or am I missing something??

I ask this cause I spent some time and money on getting my lab trained as a pup last summer but life being what it is - and the economy being where it is - I ended up working more over the last 9 months than I perhaps ever have and therefore wasn't able to get my dog out as much as I would have liked. He's still very well trained and while I dont have any desire (or ability) to drop another thousand on training, I would love to be able to get out and continue working on his flushing (and woaing) and shooting birds over him.

So, is this a "loop hole" I just figured out??? Or is there something that I am missing here??
__________________
countertop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2009, 05:28 AM   #2
Typical Buck
 
4evrhtn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Central PA
Posts: 814
Default RE: Bird Dog Training

In Pa, you cannot kill game birds out of a regulated season, whether bought or not.On game farms there are special season lengths which differto the regular areaseason.Here in Pa chukar are not considered a game bird therefore they can be shot year round. They are a bit more expensive than quail but 1/2 the cost of pheasant. I have a GSP and I trained him with quail. His first time hunting pheasants he did exactly what he had been trained to do with the quail. To him a bird is a bird whether quail, pheasant, duck or goose. Don't think you need to buy pheasants in order for your dog to hunt pheasants. A canvas dummy with pheasant scent will be enough to teach the dog to hunt pheasants at a much cheaper cost (if he doesn't have an issue with retrieving feathered birds). If the dog is reluctant to retrieve birds with lots of feathers more work will need to be done with real birds.
__________________
I spent nearly every day of my life hunting... the rest have been wasted
4evrhtn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2009, 03:26 PM   #3
Giant Nontypical
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location:
Posts: 7,658
Default RE: Bird Dog Training

Here in Maine I can train my dogs any time I want to with a blank pistol on any land that is opened to the public. I can also get a permit to raise birds and shoot them at anytiome of year including Sundays.
( Sunday hunting is illegal here) It is called a propagation (sp ) permit and it allows me and my friends to shoot pen raised birds with in the location/s I discribe that I will be training in. I can also go to a game farm if they have the birds available at the time i wish to go there. Sundays are included as well.
Phil from Maine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2009, 04:38 AM   #4
Fork Horn
 
birddog3412's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 274
Default RE: Bird Dog Training

In Illinois we can also train year round with a blank pistol. That really doesnt help retrievers and flushers like it does pointing dogs. So I use pigeons to shoot for retrieving purposes. About anyone will let you trap pigeons on them. I even have a USDA guy who traps them as pests and then gives them to me.
birddog3412 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2009, 06:29 AM   #5
JW
Super Moderator
 
JW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Racine, WI. USA
Posts: 4,239
Default RE: Bird Dog Training

In WI the state has set aside Dog Training areas on state land to include both water and land. Then with a 25 dollar fee one is allowed to use game birds on these lands.

Helps me a ton......

JW
__________________
Turkey Hunting! ~ One Turkey Calling Another!
JW is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bird Dog Training cjp161 Sporting Dogs 9 03-18-2008 01:25 PM
New to bird dog training...HELP MossyOak722 Sporting Dogs 7 12-21-2007 12:11 PM
Bird Dog Training daleh Hunting Dogs 0 02-20-2007 08:58 PM
Bird Dog Training daleh Hunts/Outfitters 0 10-06-2006 02:57 PM
Bird Dog Training daleh Hunting Dogs 0 06-29-2006 02:41 PM

 

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:37 PM.