weather can be a big factor, usually if the weather is nice, they'll fly down right after daylight,normally when they can see the ground good.if bad weather,or foggy, i've seen them stay in the tree til late morning, just depends,try getting in the woods before daylight, they'll usually start gobbling at first light,try an owl hooter or crow call, this works well to make them gobble, even late morning with the crow call,when you hear them start gobbling move in and set up, not to close.i usually only yelp a few times. soft yelps til hes on the ground, just to let him know your in the area. then i crank it up. and if hes alone, get ready.just remember zero movement, when hes coming into you. hope this helps.good luck.this is my main set up, at first light. heres some of mine from this year.