grrw-ca rifles and pistols
02-09-2016, 08:57 AM
#31
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
No doubt they'll be popular. I'd love to have one too.
My point is we could always buy a custom Hawken. A gun built from the Don Stith kit by a gun builder will be as close to a real Hawken as it gets.
My point is we could always buy a custom Hawken. A gun built from the Don Stith kit by a gun builder will be as close to a real Hawken as it gets.
02-10-2016, 08:38 AM
#32
Spike
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 4
Hey Muley,
How's the weather in your neck of the woods, here in Utah it sucks. I have our house up for sale, when sold would like to move back home to Colorado. Keep in touch, we have had some fun on the other website we go to once in a while. This GRRW CA project has kept me busy since Nov of last year, finally everything has been worked out, just approved new barrel stamps this morning.
Fun stuff remembering the past when first getting into this sport and now looking at these modern weapons that shoot black-powder in one form or another. Doc White wants me to try one of his newest in-lines, told I wasn't interested in those guns.
Buck
How's the weather in your neck of the woods, here in Utah it sucks. I have our house up for sale, when sold would like to move back home to Colorado. Keep in touch, we have had some fun on the other website we go to once in a while. This GRRW CA project has kept me busy since Nov of last year, finally everything has been worked out, just approved new barrel stamps this morning.
Fun stuff remembering the past when first getting into this sport and now looking at these modern weapons that shoot black-powder in one form or another. Doc White wants me to try one of his newest in-lines, told I wasn't interested in those guns.
Buck
03-02-2016, 05:45 PM
#35
Nontypical Buck
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: gilbert az
Posts: 1,168
so here's a quick update i just finished up ordering the parts for my trapper pistol build the full stock hawken rifle will be a little later on. it will be a full stock percussion .58 cal with a 10' rice 1-20 twist barrel 1" across the flats, curly maple stock grade 5-6 hand rubbed oil finish and we may do some very light scroll work on it if they think it fit's the build. i'm told it will be in the mike nesbit article coming out so that will be very cool can't wait to see the gun and the article !!
03-03-2016, 08:48 AM
#39
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 12,746
I thought he was talking about the twist for his rifle. But now another question. You're telling me that a properly loaded ball (tight patch) won't spin with a short barrel? Unless the ball skips the first 10" - 12" I don't see any difference a fast twist would make. And if the ball does skip it seems a faster twist rate would cause more slipping than a slower one. But with the lighter load used in a pistol this seems impossible. In mind mind a twist rate is a twist rate regardless of barrel length. this sounds like an old wife's tale to me.
Please explain.
Please explain.
Last edited by bronko22000; 03-03-2016 at 08:59 AM.
03-03-2016, 09:10 AM
#40
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: River Ridge, LA (Suburb of New Orleans)
Posts: 10,917
I think it's a matter of barrel length and potential velocity. Both the 1:20 twist and the 1:70 twist will spin the ball so long as the patch/ball combination grips the rifling.
A 1:20 twist works in a short pistol barrel with a light powder charge because the velocity is low enough for the rifling to maintain its grip on ball/patch. However, the powder charge normally used in a rifle will cause the ball/patch to strip the rifling in a 1:20 twist barrel.
A 1:20 twist works in a short pistol barrel with a light powder charge because the velocity is low enough for the rifling to maintain its grip on ball/patch. However, the powder charge normally used in a rifle will cause the ball/patch to strip the rifling in a 1:20 twist barrel.