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Old 06-12-2004, 02:08 AM   #1
 
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Default Arrows.

I need arrows. I recently bought a recurve. I want to go with aluminum for now. Might try wood next year. Anyways. I have a few questions. Dumb ones at that.

1.) What is spine.

2.) How much does arrow diameter matter?
2b.) How do I know what diameter to use?

3.) Is it better to go longer or as short as possible with arrow length?

It is a 60" Black Widow with a 63# pull at 30" but I pull a little farther than that if any of that matters.

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Old 06-12-2004, 08:37 AM   #2
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Default RE: Arrows.

"Spine," as we use the term today, is simply the relative stiffness of an arrow. Archers use the term improperly, but that's what they're talking about.

How much does arrow diameter matter? A larger diameter arrow has to be spine matched to the bow a bit better than a smaller diameter arrow. And the opposite is true also, a smaller diameter arrow will shoot well from a bow, even if it's spine is really a bit too stiff for the bow.

You can see quite a difference in how the arrow sits on the bow's shelf when you look how a 2512 compares to a skinny little Easton Axis. It doesn't take a lot of effort to see that the 2512 is pointing way off to the side and will have to paradox a lot to bring it's point of impact over to your point of aim. The skinny Axis isn't going to have to paradox much to get it flying down the middle.

A lot is being said these days about how a small diameter hunting arrow penetrates game better than a large diameter arrow. Maybe in certain circumstances, but I remain unconvinced. Doesn't seem to me like it matters whether the arrow is 1/4" diameter or 3/8", it's following a broadhead that has already cut at least a 1" hole. It's a non issue, in my book.

So, what diameter you need to shoot from your bow is a moot point. The critical thing you need to do is find the arrow that spines best for you, regardless of diameter.

I like my hunting arrows to be a little long in order to keep the broadhead away from my fingers. I know some guys who cut their arrows exactly to where the back of the broadhead's blade touches their index finger at full draw. They use it as sort of a draw check. I don't like something that sharp, with that much force behind it, anywhere near that close to any part of my body that tends to bleed when cut.

Of course, arrow length also has a bearing on spine. So, the first thing you must do is determine what length arrow you intend to shoot before you begin sorting out what arrows to get. I suggest going to Easton's website and using their Legacy arrow selector program. The standard charts will suggest an arrow that is many sizes too stiff. The Legacy chart will get you in the ball park.

Getting the correct arrow spine is half the battle. You've got one devil of a starter bow, that's for sure. With that Widow, you've got no excuses.[&:]
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Old 06-12-2004, 12:23 PM   #3
 
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Default RE: Arrows.

Why wait until next year to try wood? That is all I shoot anymore. I can make a dozen arrows for around twenty bucks and it is a very enjoyable past time. My aluminum arrows have been sitting in the basement for years and as far as I'm concerned all they are good for is tomatoe stakes.
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Old 06-12-2004, 02:59 PM   #4
 
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Wood arrows are kind of spendy to buy. And with a 3.5 year old and 1 year old I don't have the time to learn to build them right now.
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Old 06-15-2004, 09:06 AM   #5
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Default RE: Arrows.

If your're looking for an arrow to shoot - meaning you're not into building arrows as a hobby or such - go get some ICS carbons. Trad bows LOVE carbon arrows - you will too !

I shoot carbons, ICS 500's I believe they are, cut to 29.5 " - they shoot out of my 52#, 57# and 63# bows very well. I love woods, make wood shafts, play with old graphlex and MJ Logs and always come back to carbons. They just dang shoot really well for me
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