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Rob/PA Bowyer · 09-16-2002, 08:40 PM

Reddawg, what type of difference are you looking for?

1) Speed
2) Stiffness
3) Kinetic Energy
4) Trajectory
5) Durability

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You'll gain some speed depending on the weight of the carbon you selected, definately a stiffer arrow. Your KE will remain the same providing you didn't change the draw weight/length of the bow, trajectory will change marginally and the durability is defined by the abuse you put an arrow thru...if it's in a target, carbons wear more than aluminum, they break but more difficult than aluminum.

Basically a little speed is gained but makes marginal changes to a setup/sight.

<font color=blue>Good Luck and Good Shooting</font id=blue>

<font color=red>Rob</font id=red>

bohntr · 09-16-2002, 11:41 PM

If you went to the similar spined arrow from Carbon Express it would weigh about 60 grains less an the speed gain would be about 20-25 feet.

Arthur P · 09-17-2002, 06:56 AM

I agree that you will pick up 'some' speed. Whether it's a significant amount depends on what brand and how light you go. Your biggest difference will be in durability. I have never been a big fan of carbon arrows, but I'm even less a fan of fragile, thin walled aluminum arrows...especially for hunting. When you get up towards 2216 or 2317, the durability advantage is chopped way down, but then arrow speed becomes a significant difference

Carbon has it all over arrows like the 2212 in every category, with the general exceptions of straightness and consistency. Quite frankly, I haven't seen all that much difference from one brand to the next. Where I have seen DRAMATIC differences is in quality according to price tag within the different brands.

My arrows are 32.5" long. No such thing as trimming a carbon to length for me. Just pull 'em off the rack and glue inserts in 'em. So any flaws in those long arrows are going to be magnified. I had nothing but grief with the cheap stuff with .006 straightness. I'm sorta dense, so I spent a lot of money trying to cheap out on arrows, and wound up with several dozen tomato stakes of various brands laying around. Finally went up the price scale to an arrow with .003 straightness and have been very happy with it.

Your Nova is a good, inexpensive bow. Put some good arrows on it, and it will shoot like a $600 bow. Put cheap, inconsistent arrows on a $600 bow and it will shoot like a $50 pawn shop special.

Jeepnut · 09-18-2002, 11:44 AM

I agree with Arthur; cheap carbons are a waste of time & money. Earlier this summer I was shooting some of the cheaper .006 straigtness carbons & was having a heck of a time getting them to group well. Just out of curiosity I grabbed some cheap aluminums (.003) that I had laying around & fired a few. Obviously since they were a little heavier they didn't hit where I was aiming, but they did group within 2" from 20 yds.

Arthur, I hate to keep bugging you about these, but I'm just curious to learn more. You mentioned that the carbons you're shooting now have a .003 straightness and in another post you mentioned you were shooting Easton Epics. I remember seeing something someplace that said they were .003, but I checked the easton web site today & it said the Epics were .005. Could this be a mis-print? Just curious. I like what I've read about the Epics and I like their price so I'm considering buying some. But unfortunately I don't have a ton of cash to experiment with several different arrows so I like to get as much info as I can before making a purchase.

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TFOX · 09-18-2002, 07:37 PM

This is an answer for jeepnut and not to the original question.Sorry.

Jeepnut,according to the Easton cataloge that list all their hunting arrows.The Epics are in fact +or-.005(.010" t.i.r.)The Evolutions are +-.004.The only arrows they have that are +- .003 are the ACC and the Kinetic II.

Trust me when I say that straightness is way overated.Heck after an arrow hits a 3-d target a couple hundred times I would bet that none of the arrows that advertise +-.001 will still be within tolerance and they will still shoot fine.Spine is the most critical and weight is the 2nd.

If you don't know already,a hair on your head is .0025 to .003 in diameter.Really depends on the person and color of hair.

I have done some of my absolute best shooting with +-.004 arrows.Definately won the most money with them.

Anthony Hunter · 09-19-2002, 06:17 AM

well I was thinking about changing from alum to carbon...after reading this topic I still dont know what to do or what arrow to choose????