I seem to recall reading something on his site a long time ago where he stated that in the absence of arrow rest contact (where spine is an issue) you will get the best performance from the heaviest spined arrow you can shoot, because archer's paradox is reduced as much as possible.
If this hold's true, Gold Tip's Big Game shaft looks awfully good. Weight is 10.7 grains per inch, straightness is ".003 with a +/- .5 gr weight tolerance, and they're spined for 75-110# bows.
I also agree with that , in fact I've found it to be the case with my last three setups during the tuning process. But , you cant sell the farm in the process either. For my current setup , all charts indicate that I should be using the gt 5575's , but in the tuning process I've found the 7595's to be ideal. Unless you have the setup , goldtips big game shafts might be going overboard.
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Disagree. I have had the BEST luck shooting PROPERLY spined arrows, and I use a drop away rest.
You will NEVER get rid of ALL flex on the release, you need a little give to have a forgiving set-up.
In fact, you might be better off shooting a LIGHTER spined arrow if your shooting a string loop, and a drop away, or prong style rest.
I'd have to agree. My "A" spine if you will, would be a 3-49 ACC. I can shoot and group with them real well. Since I put on the MZE I've moved up to the 3-60 shaft size and they also group great. I move back and forth between the two sizes at closer distances and you'd have a hard time telling the difference between the two.
I just spent an hour over there and can't find the exact quote, but it seems like he had said that if you don't want to mess around being picky about spine, then find the stiffest arrow recommended for your setup on the charts and add 5 pounds to make your selection. He's not talking grossly overspined.
Now if I'm wrongly attributing that point of view to Mr Ragsdale, my apologies. I know he's a stickler about arrow spine, but he also writes a lot of comments about most people being underspined.
I didn't see the topic from Bob Ragsdale so I can't comment on it. I will say that the heaviest spine that shoots well is the best choice for me. I've messed with this quite a bit and found the heavier spine to group better and also in many cases to get better performance.
Lots of the charts aren't upgraded as often as they need to be and don't keep up with the performance of the newer bows. If the Gold Tip chart says 55/75 I often move customers to the 75/95 and get better results.
Ragsdale's mantra is that the best thing you can do to make your setup more forgiving is to have the proper spine. I agree with that statement. It seems once you find your spine sweet spot you shouldn't change anything - up, down or sideways.
Terry Ragsdale (Bob's son) won the Nationals with arrows off spine by 4 columns on the arrow chart. When they put his winning bow on a shooting machine, they found his nocking point and rest were way out of alignment. That tells me that the guy behind the bow is the best indicator of where the arrow is going (another Ragsdale mantra).
Do you agree with Bob Ragsdale?
