I recently put a NAP Quicktune 4000 fall away rest on my Martin Jaguar Magnum...I'm still rubbing my cock fletch on the block. The bow is very short (32" A to A)and there is no way fo me to move the rest lower. Should I raise my nock and the "top" of the prong position at full draw? This is sooo frustrating 1wk before opening day. HELP! (sorry for posting this in Bowhunting forum also by accident)
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Try pulling the prongs out of the block a little, not much, just a little. Then, raise your nock point to corrospond with rise in the prongs. I try to set it so that the prong block, at rest, is level with the riser shelf. I too use the 4000, and it took about a week for me to get it just right. Works like a charm now.
Muzzyman: Thanks for the insight; I just got off of the phone with Mike @ NAP (very helpful - they were going to give me the cell # of their Tech guy who is on an Elk hunt right now!!) Mike suggested the same thing...pulling the prongs out about 1/8- 1/4 inch. I'll give it a try. T minus 3days
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Nj-Bowhunter, one thing. How bad is it hitting? I had mine just touching the last 1/8" of the block, but was getting excellent groups, and no fletching damage. Seems that it is just hitting it as its going down, and not affecting anything. If its shooting good, maybe not messing with it till after season would be a good idea, especially this close to the opener for you. NAP told you to move it out 1/8 - 1/4, but I would start with as little as a 1/16". Thats what I did and thats all it took to give the prongs enough time to get down farther before the fletching gets there.
Oh man I hope you get it worked out before season. That is the reason I like the golden key mirage better. it dosn't need prongs and the arrow sets in there great. if you ever change check it out, you will really like it.
Follow-up:
I was actually able to move the rest back 1/2" (closer to my nock point and down a bit). Problem Solved! I'm completely clear of the block with cock fletch down: the rest is shhhhhh silent, and oh so consistant. Thanks for the help and suggestions.
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The following is a new FAQ that they are planning on adding to the QT 4000 [NAP- Website]. I thought I'd share it FYI.
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Below is a troubleshooting review that will help you obtain maximum clearance and performance with the rest.
Troubleshooting
Cannot attain fletching clearance on the prong block or the prongs. This usually occurs from the rest and nock point being located too low or because of uneven nock travel.
Solution –
First determine whether the bow is a dual cam or solocam design.
Some bows both dual cam and solocam designs are susceptible to nock travel issues. While any bow can be tuned regardless of nock travel, knowing what to do in those situations can often save much time and effort during the tuning process. For solocam designs, often the simplest solution is raising the nock point on the string from 1/16” to as much as 3/8”. The arrow will no longer appear to be 90º (right angle) to the string. Instead, it will appear to be pointed slightly downward at the point. If the problem still occurs, start by removing the black prong block from the silver shaft on the rest. The 7/64 cap screw on the bottom of the block attaches the block to the shaft. Once the block is removed, each prong can be slightly extended by using a 1/16 Allen wrench to loosen and then retighten each set screw. This increases the height of the prongs slightly in the raised position. Consequently, the string nock must again be reset slightly higher to accommodate the extra height in the prongs. Depending on the bow and set up the arrow may or may not form a right angle (90º) with the string.
For a Dual Cam design first determine whether both cams roll over at the same rate by contacting a local archery pro shop and asking for assistance. If the cams do not roll over at the same rate the bow will be very difficult to tune. Once cam roll over is verified and/or corrected, the set up instructions above should solve the clearance issue. If the problem still occurs, start by removing the black prong block from the silver shaft on the rest. The 7/64 cap screw on the bottom of the block attaches the block to the shaft. Once the block is removed, each prong can be slightly extended by using a 1/16 Allen wrench to loosen and then retighten each set screw. This increases the height of the prongs slightly in the raised position. Consequently, the string nock must also be reset. The nock point will be reset slightly higher to accommodate the extra height in the prongs. At this point the arrow should be 90º (right angle) to the string. If the problem still persists, slightly raising the nock point as in the above solocam design example will solve the issue.
Cannot clear the inside hen fletch on the rest pick up cable.
Solution –
Bend the cable as it exits the pivot block. Using your finger or thumb, bend the vinyl coated metal cable over toward the cable guard. This creates a permanent set in the cable causing it to track closer toward the cable guard and further out of the way of the arrow path.
Hope this helps and good luck this season.
Cary J. Pickands
Technical Support Specialist
New Archery Products, Corp.
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