Turbo's Fracturing/Splitting Carbon Shafts

[Tarsalius]

Hi guys,

Its been a while since I posted here. Last time I was waiting till I had the fundage for the Pat Dually. Now since I have one I am dreadfull for the 2005 lineup. Man-O-Man. Anyhu, I have a question for you guys. I have been trying to tune my setup I am shooting a Pat Dually at 70lbs, arrows are 27 1/4 inches long 100gr tips, shooting turbos. My shafts are the Carbon Express 300's and Cabelas Hunter 65/80's. I went home shooting this past weekend to try and get it tuned in, and in the process over a half a dozen of my shafts have a 1/2 inch fracture/split where the turbo fits in. I believe the power of the bow drives the wedge ended turbos into my shaft that it splits them similar to a wedge and wood. I really want the turbos to work, my arrow flight was pretty erratic. I moved my nocking point high 1/8 inch starting etc, aligned according to the instructions, and still I get some serious porpusing(SP). Anyway to make a long story short I think I am going to get some Axis arrows possibly with some quickspins. Anybody have any advice who shoots a dually as to what works best for them. Seriously I want to drive tacks. Thanks for reading this, and I hope you guys are having good times getting your setups in fine tune. I too want to provide "winter provisions" for my family, but the erattic flight of my arrows at this time do not give me the confidence of a 100% humane harvest. Thanks guys.

David

[walks with a gimp]

I'm shooting aluminums through my '03 Pat DC and too have noticed that after many shots, the nocks seem to be getting loose. The power of the bow must be spreading the nocks after time because when I replace them with new ones the fit is good again. Something that should be replaced from time to time even if they look good IMO. Try the 2314's or 2315's in XX78 with your Pat DC if you want the ultimate punch for filling the freezer You'll get 12 good arrows in a new dozen also for less cost that the carbons. I still shoot carbons for 3D but the better quality of the components of the aluminum arrows makes for consistent fit and alignment that adds up to great hunting accuracy.

[pan man]

I have been haveing the same proublums.I went to the axes and have no proublums.People on other forums have reported the same thing.I havent tryed the terbos yet,but have ordered some for other arrows i have pan.

[Kanga]

One thing if you go with the Axis and helical fletch then put a fall a way rest on as you will get fletching contact with a prong style rest.

Those Axis are skinny little buggers

[JOE PA]

I have been very happy with Bohning Blazer vanes on my arrows. I was shooting Axis 400s earlier this year, and had decent fletching clearance with a shoot through rest with helical fletched Blazers (due to their shorter length). The Blazer fletched arrows seem to shoot just as well with broadheads (Muzzys) as 4" helical fletch on my ACCs. Shot well on my bow that had a Whisker Biscuit rest also (until the bow itself had to be retired[:'(])

[Len in Maryland]

I can't begin to tell you how many years I've been warning about internal nock pressures on carbon arrows. While there will be MANY who will never have a problem, the small percentage of damaged shafts, especially if not detected, could be devastating. There are ways to fix this problem, but a different nocking system would be required.

[Tarsalius]

Thanks for all your input guys. Yeah this whole tuning/accuracy/foc/spine stuff got my head spinning. I think I will go with either the XX78's, GT Hunting Pro's, or the Axis 340's. The only thing is that with the more aggressive cams on my bow, I am having issues deciding on which shaft size to select. Most of the choices ride on the line between the shaft increment chart. On one hand don't want too weak a shaft, and on the other I don't want too stiff a shaft either. Anyone who owns a dually shooting ~28inch shafts, 100 grn points, drawing ~72lbs have any hot tips on what tuned and really shot well for them? Again, thanks guys for all your input, especially for those who usually get paid for their help/knowledge, and out of their kindness, share it here.

David

[NickSnook]

Simple fix for your arrows. We have found that some shafts , even batches of the same shaft can vary on the inside diameter. If you get a shaft that is extremely tight for the TURBO NOCK all you have to do is gently file or sand two of the four raised areas on the insert part of the nock.
If you do just a little sanding at the back of the raised area closest to the vanes It will allow the nock to fit tight shafts better and will not affect the straightness.
As to tuning the TURBO We have a section on our website. If you go to www.turbonock.com and click on tuning tips you will get into a message board where we help folks with setup problems.
you can also view some set up photos if you click on pictures in the tuning tips section.
It is a lot easier for my staff and me to address issues on our website than take up space on these talk forums. I will gladly help with tuning tips here and other sites, but common sense prevaling If you have TURBOS and need help would it not be easier to go to the source?
Every package we ship has tuning tips included and also the web address and a toll free number.
I am not complaining but we find out about most folks who are having problems from complaints they lodge on various forums. If I go on a fourm to address their problems I usually get accused of "pimping " my product. This happened recently on this site.

[rack attack]

I shoot a somewhat similar setup, just a VFT instead of Dually. (see below)

The Gold Tip Pro 7595s with 4" Helical Feathers have tuned GREAT for me shooting bullet holes through the paper and sticking arrows INSIDE each other with field points and/or broadheads.

ORIGINAL: Tarsalius
Anyone who owns a dually shooting ~28inch shafts, 100 grn points, drawing ~72lbs have any hot tips on what tuned and really shot well for them? Again, thanks guys for all your input, especially for those who usually get paid for their help/knowledge, and out of their kindness, share it here.

David

[NickSnook]

Here is a photo of how and where to sand the TURBO if the fit is too tight.
We have found that even in different batches of some Carbon shafts the ID can vary.