FEATHERS & BISCUITS

Soilarch · 09-16-2004, 02:45 PM

Does anyone have experience with the biscuit rests and feather fletching? Im going to arrows, and may eventually go to biscuit rest also. Will the feather wear way too fast?

Jeepnut · 09-16-2004, 03:44 PM

Mine are holding up pretty well but I've only got about 200 shots on them so far. No signs of wear at all. Definitely holding up better than the factory Easton vanes that came on my ACC's.

5 shot · 09-17-2004, 03:26 AM

With the new B2 biscuits feathers seem to wear well. I trim the rest some and that helps as well.

sho-me_bhntr · 09-17-2004, 06:25 AM

just to add to what 5 shot said. i HAVEN'T trimmed the b2 biscuit and my feathers look terriffic. feathers and the b2 are a great combination imo.

Len in Maryland · 09-17-2004, 07:55 AM

5shot:

The new B2 biscuits have a new problem that can only be expanded by trimming it. The thinner (brown) fibers allow the arrow to drop into the fibers much easier than the older style. If you trim the fibers, that could occur even more. While in most instances the draw cycle will 'pop' the arrow out of the whiskers, trimming may hinder this action.

Just something to think about.

Handles · 09-17-2004, 08:11 AM

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The thinner (brown) fibers allow the arrow to drop into the fibers much easier than the older style.

How can that be when the brown fibers are only found on the top and sides?? The original black fibers still support the arrow from below. It is possible on either type of bisket for the arrow if bumped to slide up int the bristles but any time you draw the arrow, even slightly, or tap it with your finger, it silently slides right back to the center of the bisket ready to shoot.

This is an absolute non-issue for any and all bisket owners, and I'm guessing that Len doesn't shoot a bisket, new or old style. Either that or he is a litte paraniod.

Len in Maryland · 09-17-2004, 08:44 PM

You should really read my post carefully to fully understand the information therein contained. It's seems to me that your feelings are over-riding your comprehension.

5 shot · 09-18-2004, 04:51 AM

Len is correct about this. I have just recently started to notice the issue. I shoot 2314 aluminum shafts and really have not seen it pop up. With the smaller ICS and Axis carbon arrows the "problem" is more pronounced. It can and will happen. Like Len said the arrow most often will pop back into place on the draw, but it is something to watch for. The quick solution is to get in the habit of looking at your arrow prior to drawing the bow back each time. I am also now recomending that those that shoot smaller diameter carbons not trim the rest unless they are willing to live with looking at the arrow each time. Keep in mind most of what I know comes from my own equipment and the 20 or so customers I have at my little bitty bow shop in in Stewartsville VA. Len on the other hand has twice that many customers in a day at his place in Baltimore. He will see potential problems much sooner than I would, and that's why I rely on his experience and knowledge a great deal. It doesn't mean I think he is right every time, but even if I disagree I still consider his points carefully before I move on.

Arrroman · 09-18-2004, 12:42 PM

Soilarch,
The original all black bristle whisker biscuit would leave a wear pattern on the outer 1/16" edge of feather fletching after a few hundred passes through the biscuit. This wear pattern does not seem to appear with the new B-2 whisker biscuit.

The bristles on the new B-2 biscuit are finer and slicker than the older biscuit. The old style biscuit could be thinned for tuning on higher poundage bows. Thinning the biscuit also reduced the friction of the fletching going through the rest, resulting in faster arrow speeds.

The B-2 whisker biscuit does not need any trimming. This biscuit does not wear feathers in the same manner as the old biscuit did. The new biscuit shoots faster than the older model as well. I have chronographed equal weight arrows, one with 5 1/2" full helical feather fletching, and the other with 4" straight fletched Marko vanes, and those arrows chronographed the exact same speeds through the B-2 biscuit.

The B-2 is balls-on accurate as well. Back in April I shot an older Hoyt Havoc and a brand new B-2 whisker biscuit using a Hooter-Shooter. At a distance of thirty-five yards the bow was shot twelve times in a row with the same arrow, and every time the arrow hit the same hole. I can't shoot any better than that!

Good luck hunting!
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doughboysigep · 09-19-2004, 05:23 PM

I just started shooting a bisquit (new style) this year and shoot feathers. I have been shooting 2 arrows for a few months and another 2 for about a month. there is visible wear on the edges of the feathers - just a hint of "fraying". they shoot fine. I actually get more damaged from arrows hitting each other when practicing. I read in Bowhunter or Bowhunting that the "fraying doesn't hurt the flight at all - actually can improve it. I have been very happy with the bisquit so far.