Turbo Nock testing

[HAZCON7]

I ordered a dozen of the Hunter Turbo Nocks to test out. Nick was very kind in also sending me a half dozen of the DeadX to play with (thanks Nick!)

Here are my findings so far:
Equipment: Forge CW33, 62lb pull, 31" draw, (chrono'd last month at 237fps), mechanical release, Whisker Biscuit (original), GoldTip Hunter 5575 arrows, Cobra Sidewinder sights.

Day 1 -
Removed fletchings from 3 new GoldTip Hunter 5575 arrows.
Installed 3 of the DeadX nocks.
Installed 125g field tips.
Instead of moving my nock up 1/8" as Nick suggested, I just added another nock above mine which raised the nock point slightly over 1/8" and still afforded me my original nock point.
Fired 3 downrange - 1" group at 15 yards.
Fired 3 more downrange - 4" group all over the place at 15 yards.
Fired several more downrange -
I found the DeadX nocks to be faster than fletched arrows but hit consistently 1 foot lower and left-right than my fletched arrows - probably due to the nock point moving.
Adjusted sights.
I put lipstick on the DeadX nocks and fired through my whisker biscuit - didn't see that the nocks were hitting anything other than whisker.
Fired 3 more downrange - 1 hit bullseye, 1 was 9" right, 1 missed the bag left and took me an hour to find.
(Edit: I'd like to point out that my fletched arrow groups prior to messing with the bow here were within 1 1/2" circle at 25 yards.)

Day 2 -
Took my bow to the professionals for tuning
Removed my nocks, added a different style peep, added a string loop, added a kisser button (grumble), aligned my whisker biscuit to center shot (was about 1/4" right of center)
Resighted in the sights.
Fired 3 fletched arrows w/ field tips downrange - 3/4" group inside the bull at 15 yards.
Fired 3 unfletched arrows w/ DeadX Turbo Nocks downrange - 3/4" group about 2 1/2" high of center bull.
(I did not move my nock point for the turbo nocks nor did I readjust my sights.)
Several rounds of 3 fletched vs 3 turbo nocks followed with very similar results.

I believe the DeadX Turbo Nocks are hitting "higher" because they have a flatter trajectory than my fletched arrows and although I didn't have a chrono they "seemed" faster. They had a very repeatable tight grouping - equal to my fletched arrow groups.

The shop owner seemed impressed by the Turbo Nocks so I gave him 3 of the Hunters to play with.
I will test the Hunters later after I verify bow tuning with 3 blade 125g Muzzy BHeads. But from what I can tell so far I think I will like them.

I think its obvious Mr. Snook has a good product here and its apparent he is willing to help out with tuning issues and resolving problems. I'll post Hunter Nock results in a week or so.

[dwaasp]

Day 2 -
Took my bow to the professionals for tuning
Removed my nocks, added a different style peep, added a string loop, added a kisser button (grumble), aligned my whisker biscuit to center shot (was about 1/4" right of center)
Resighted in the sights.
Fired 3 fletched arrows w/ field tips downrange - 3/4" group inside the bull at 15 yards.
Fired 3 unfletched arrows w/ DeadX Turbo Nocks downrange - 3/4" group about 2 1/2" high of center bull.
(I did not move my nock point for the turbo nocks nor did I readjust my sights.)
Several rounds of 3 fletched vs 3 turbo nocks followed with very similar results.

I believe the DeadX Turbo Nocks are hitting "higher" because they have a flatter trajectory than my fletched arrows and although I didn't have a chrono they "seemed" faster. They had a very repeatable tight grouping - equal to my fletched arrow groups.

The shop owner seemed impressed by the Turbo Nocks so I gave him 3 of the Hunters to play with.
I will test the Hunters later after I verify bow tuning with 3 blade 125g Muzzy BHeads. But from what I can tell so far I think I will like them.

I think its obvious Mr. Snook has a good product here and its apparent he is willing to help out with tuning issues and resolving problems. I'll post Hunter Nock results in a week or so.

Thanks for the info HAZCON7:

Day 2 is what one would wish to start with.

My nocks has not come yet even though they were sent pr-mail a week ago.

I hope the DeadX stabilize the arrows I wish to shoot, as the weight & dia of the Hunter is more than I wished to shoot through my rest.

The interesting part will be how they compare in Trajectory Tables variance from other arrows 40-45 yds & say 50-55 yds; & if FOC still has an effect on trajectory.

Mr. Snook says it does not matter a good deal about the FOC but I do not see why it cannot be maintained when using lighter arrows with such a variety of arrowheads as today. He also seamed to say tuning should be more simple.

Looking forward to your test with the Hunter??

[c j]

What were your thoughts on their noise, or lack thereof, in comparison to conventional fletching?

[HAZCON7]

C J, I listened very attentively and did not hear any noise associated with turbo nocks at all. But I haven't shot the Hunters yet either, the DeadX are pretty quiet.

[NickSnook]

HAZCON
when you do your testing with the hunter you may hear a slight noise.
To really appreciate how this affects game.
The experiment we set up was to have someone shoot the TURBO at a target 30yds away. I had the target set up about 10feet from the back corner of my barn.
I stood behind the barn and poked my head out to listen to the shooting.
I could not hear the deadx or the hunter until they hit the target. I could hear the conventional arrows with feathers and vanes as soon as they left the bow 30yds away.
This may sound silly, but I then turned my back to the shooter and bent my legs and tried to see if I could jump the shots.
I could not beat the fletched or the turbonock at 30yds.

At 270fps I believe it is virtually impossible for a big game animal to beat even a noisy arrow. sound travels at 1129 fps and will arrive at a 20yd target in 1/16 second. and arrow at 270fps will get there in about 1/2 second . that leaves about 3/16 of a second for the animal to even hear the bow and then determine if it is a danger then start to jump.
So far in two years we have not been able to video an animal jumping a turbo. Most times as in the photos I posted they do not react until hit.
Good luck with your test shooting.
Your biggest problem and it is not very big is to be sure the HUNTER does not hit the sides of the whisker. If it is already centered , your only adjustment may be vertical.
Do the lipstick test. on your first shot. if there is no marks on the bottom of the rest you should be in good shape.

usually that 1/8 inch nock high does the trick. fine tuning may be from 1/16 to 3/16 nock high on single and double cam bows.
we are finding on the new hybrid cam and 1/2 bows that a slight nock low is where the sweet spot for tuning is.