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Old 08-15-2004, 07:16 PM   #1
 
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Hey all,

Been awhile since I posted. Just got a new setup, a hoyt ViperTec. I am shooting a NAP Drop Away 2000 and Easton Axis 500 Arrows with 100gr points... I am shooting a Release with a string loop.

Had a few problems, Arrow rest was setup too low, had to move my sight way down. Got that taken care of. Took some shots at 10 yards, Dialed it in close... Moved out to about 15-17 yards and I shot a few inches high.

Move to 20-25 yards shot significantly low.

Why is the POI jumping all over? About how far can I shoot one pin? I am shooting 62 pounds on a 50-60lb bow.

Also, my draw seems a little short, how much of a bend should I have in my elbow?

I love the bow, it shoots awesome, quiet, hardly and shock.. Just have a few issues....
Also, My vanes are getting a little "Crinkly" or "wavy" Whats going on with that? It shouldn't be hitting anything....

Thanks in advance for any help!

-Jared
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Old 08-15-2004, 07:27 PM   #2
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What's the draw weight and draw length of the bow?

As far as the vanes getting crinkly.. what kind of rest are you shooting?

Sounds to me like the bow doesn't fit you well.. if you have to bend your elbow... and depending on draw length/weight.. you might be underspined w/ those arrows. Have you done any kind of tuning (IE paper tune... ect...).

Just need a little more info before we can help...
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Old 08-16-2004, 07:07 PM   #4
 
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Thanks for the advice...

The bow is at 62lbs. I am shooting a 29" arrow. They never did measure my draw length, Just said, That looks right.

I bought my bow at Scheels. I hope it wasn't a mistake.

how can I determine my draw length?

Edit.... I just measured my wingspan, fingertip to fingertip laying on the floor and got 78 inches. measured fist to corner of my mouth. and got 32... Do they even make them that long?

I think they only went up to 30 inches. I am going to be wild if he screwed me...

As far as the arrow rest, it was riding low in relationship to the hole in the riser... Any help would be great!



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Old 08-16-2004, 10:44 PM   #5
 
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Thanks for the advice...

The bow is at 62lbs. I am shooting a 29" arrow. They never did measure my draw length, Just said, That looks right.

I bought my bow at Scheels. I hope it wasn't a mistake.

how can I determine my draw length?

Edit.... I just measured my wingspan, fingertip to fingertip laying on the floor and got 78 inches. measured fist to corner of my mouth. and got 32... Do they even make them that long?

I think they only went up to 30 inches. I am going to be wild if he screwed me...

As far as the arrow rest, it was riding low in relationship to the hole in the riser... Any help would be great!
It appears you should have the bow set to a 30" draw.

The company or the vender will have initial suggestions for center shot & nocking position & either are usually happy to provide them. & before settings are changed more than 1/8" of what they say; give them another call and confer.

The arrow does not need to go through the rest at precisely the elevation as the bolt.

When one takes an arrow with a new fletching, look it over good in a bright light or sunlight & do the same after each shot, if you do not see one smudge or mark the probability is there is no fletching contact.

Now if there is any defect on the fletching at all, there is contact: always check for contact before paper tuning.

Try to adjust the fall-away to fall before the acceleration pressure on the string comes to an end; about 8-10" of the power stroke. That way the bow will not be loose in your hand until the rest falls out of the way.
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Old 08-17-2004, 07:59 AM   #6
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Yeh, no doubt the arrow is too weak at that length. I shoot 500's at 62# but at 27.5" draw and 27" arrow. You should be shooting a 400. And yoiu should probably be shooting about 31" draw.
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Old 08-17-2004, 08:43 AM   #7
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You are off the charts underspined , 400 is still underspined , youed be better off with 340s and a 125 grain tip . You might get by with the 400s with a 75 grian tip , but as many will attest to here being overspined is way better than being under spined , especialy when shooting fixed broadheads . Start by getting the correct arrows and tune from there , I doubt you will ever get a decent tune with the arrows you have now unless you drop the draw weight down to around 50 lbs .
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78-15 equals 63 63 divided by 2 equals 31.5 AMO drawlength. 31.5 AMO would be a good starting point for your draw length, provided your 78 inch wing span is correct.
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Old 08-17-2004, 10:40 AM   #9
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I think it was a mistake. The only things I buy at scheels are reloading supplies & optics. You have to go into Scheels knowing exactly what you need. They have "shoe salesman" working in the archery & gun deparments around here.
Archery equipment is something I know very little about. Thank god I have two great proshops within a 5-mile radius of Scheels. Get a local pro to help you out with your setup.
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Old 08-17-2004, 08:31 PM   #10
 
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It probably was a mistake... Oh well, It might take a little tuning but I'll get it. No pro shops that sell hoyts around here....

My mistake.. I am shooting Easton Axis 400's, Sorry about that.

If the arrow shouldn't shoot through the bolt hole, How should it be lined up? I am a bit confused on that aspect.

I am so pissed that they didn't measure my draw length. They WILL be taking those arrows back if and when they are too short...

I am taking it to a shop tommorow, Hopefully they can help me out.

Edit, one more question... The longest draw they make is 30" What if I am longer than that? What can I do? Longer string loop? Anything at all??

Thanks a ton, you guys are great!

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