I just have to throw this tangent story in...
Poor Ken got abused during the ATA show while at the BowTech booth

...he was hanging around and everyone who would see his nametag ,started calling him Kevin Bacon...[:-]
Matt was absolutely ruthless and would sing Kenny Loggins "Footloose" song when Ken came over..."Gotta cut loose..Footloose! Kick of your Sunday Shoes!" or something like that (never saw the movie myself)..he ven got to dancing a couple of times...
But Ken took it in stride and fired right back.....anyone who hangs around the BT crew better be able to..we are all ruthless, punches are not pulled,and no-one is safe from ridicule!

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Youre a good guy Ken, enjoyed meetin/chattin' with ya!