BACK TENSION RELEASE WITH SAFETY??

[weatherby460]

Which models have the safety feature. I know true ball sweet spot, and carter solution 2 has it. Does zeneth or stan's have any models? Also has anyone used the safety feature on any of these, and what do you think?

[Zippernut]

Carter also has the original solution with the safety button. They can be had pretty regularly on the classifieds. I don't know of any stans or zeniths with safeties.

[Ossage]

I have two of the Carter Solutions. They are very nice, but the safety isn't their best feature. On one it is very stiff to hold down, and actualy makes the release seem less secure.

The new TRU sounds good, the fact you can press a button to activate, and that it can be activated at any head angle, with the same amount of trigger engagement is pretty big stuff. The only comparable advantage for the Carter is that it essentialy operates as one of those thumb triggers that fires when you relax your thumb (as well as being a great BT release), if you want that option. I would want to try the Tru before I bought it, which doesn't seem all that likely to happen. On the negative side, I had two of their previous BT releases, the Hingefire (crap), and the Spike, which is pretty cool, but not really good enough to ever make it to the line. So twice bit...

I would say that all this stuff isn't really necesary if you shoot a BT release the way it should be shot. I have shot a Stan CNC 2 finger release in quite a few 3Ds, and to be honest, I did once goof a shot, but it was technique. I have goofed shots with other releases as well. Last year during a practice round, I lost my proper BT and had the cam roll forward and fire my Scott caliper. The solution to that kind of stuff is to be in good shape , and to do some blind bag shooting, which I haven't done, due to injuries, in 4 years. BT releases won't accidentaly go off if they are properly handled.

[stinky1]

I have a Fail Safe(now defunt) that has a thumb safety tab. You hold down the tab while drawing and settling into your position. Then release the tab when in position and let the backtension take over. I friend is trying it out now. I'll try to get back on here is the name of it soon.

[bloodtrail1]

I have tried the failsafe and the saftey malfunctioned and I punched myself in the mouth!<img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle> Or...maybe I malfunctioned and it wasnt the releases falt???

Edited by - bloodtrail1 on 02/20/2002 11:07:57

Edited by - bloodtrail1 on 02/20/2002 11:08:42

[radar1]

I know the Zenieth has a wrist starp you can get with there back tension releases. I made one for my Stan and it works great. Buy a replacement strap from a caliper release and put a piece of parachute cord trough the hole and around the end of the backtension release. When you draw your bow, use your wrist not your fingers...impossible for it to release. At full draw, rotate and set your fingers (pointing towards the target) and start turning. Scott replacement strap is what I bought, ebay $11.

[Ossage]

Thats all pretty interesting.

One thing I didn't mention was that one reason i am not all that happy with some of these failsafe devices is that they do require you to reposition yourself at full draw. At the PSE School, about 97% of the students were short on time at full draw. Their shot sequence took longer than their hold would last. This isn't apparent to most people without diagnosis. If you are already time short in your sequence, fidling with your release at full draw doesn't make you shoot better.

[sdzumbro]

I got the Tru ball sweet spot a couple of months ago,and I like it. It has two set screws you run in and out to control the break over point. You can set it light enough that the saftey does not work,but at a normal setting the safety works great.

[RobVos]

I have shot both the Sweet-spot and the Solution 2. They are both cool releases. The way the Carter funtion is really neet, but I have a very hard time getting the safety on the Carter in. It take a lot of fiddling with for me to get it pressed in. One reason for this is because I hold my releases fairly deeply in my hand, which puts the safety release post at the base of my thumb. The TruBall release is nice as well and the safety is much easier to disengage, for me. But it is a little long, compared to other releases that I use (1/8 to 1/4 inch longer), so that messes up my anchor point, which I don't want to do. I am a 29 5/8&quot; draw so I short string a 30&quot; module on my Max2000. I really do want to pre-rotate the cam any more for draw length.

If you already shoot a BT release, I don't see the need for either of these (especially for the prices). If you are just learning, they will prevent you from punching yourself in the mouth.

[Ossage]

Well said Rob