Carbon Revolution Black Diamond Arrows=30-150 fps Faster???

atlasman · 03-26-2004, 01:45 PM

Is this true??

The advertisment in Peterson's says they are lighter, stiffer, and will add 30-150 fps to your current rig.

I haven't seen anything posted about them and was just wondering if this is a scam or if there is a catch........there HAS to be

They say penetration is better too [

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Now that I have read all that THEY say.............what do YOU guys think?

bigbulls · 03-26-2004, 02:23 PM

Sure but at the cost of your limbs and riser cracking or exploding.

Cougar Mag · 03-26-2004, 02:56 PM

I don't care how stiff the arrows are, with not enough grains per inch---per your draw weight, you take big chances.

mlaubner · 03-26-2004, 06:38 PM

I also wondered about this...it IS one heck of a claim to make.
If you followed the rules of 5gr./pound, I just don't understand how their arrows can overcome the laws of physics.
Can anyone explain?

Arthur P · 03-26-2004, 07:10 PM

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If you followed the rules of 5gr./pound, I just don't understand how their arrows can overcome the laws of physics.

They don't.

HCA claims one of their bows is safe to shoot with arrow weights down to 3 grains per pound. If you look at their propaganda about their carbon revolution arrows, a chart showing the comparison between their arrows and other carbon arrow brands and models, they show hitting 342 fps with a 250 grain arrow from a 70 pound bow.

That's just under 3.6 grains per pound. That's too dang close to a dryfire for my blood. I'd be flinching like a sonuvagun every time I shot that thing!

mlaubner · 03-26-2004, 07:18 PM

Thanks Arthur P,
I should have read the ad a little closer. If this is the case, I am of the opinion that they are grossly irresponsible and possibly face liability issues.

atlasman · 03-26-2004, 10:11 PM

So are they only safe to be shot out the HCA bow??

How can theybe telling people to shoot 3 grains per pound and not have any bows falling apart out there?

Todd1700 · 03-26-2004, 10:37 PM

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How can theybe telling people to shoot 3 grains per pound and not have any bows falling apart out there?

They shouldn't. I haven't seen the ad but if they are telling people thats its okay to shoot these arrows from any bow at 3grs per lb then they are being very irresponcible. I have my doubts about the HCA bows holding up at those low arrow weights as well. I foresee a lot of people staggering into emergency rooms with cams and idler wheels lodged in their nostril.

Rack-attack · 03-27-2004, 12:19 PM

I just had the opertunity to look over a bunch of High countries. Quality control, IMO is still a big issue with them - Very poor IMO.

HC is commiting comercial suicide. Your product MUST be spot on, perfect, if you dare to warranty and promote such light arrows.

They kick like a free basing mule, bare bow............(2-1/2 lbs[:-])..........need two pounds of stab just to keep it still.

They chose a direction that will IMO lead to an abrupt dead end. I like the carbon riser, but they are just too light, too expensive, to poorly manufactured to achieve what they are trying to do in the market.

Ossage · 03-27-2004, 01:13 PM

All other things being equal, a 2.5# bow with 2 pounds of stab is a whole lot better than a 4.5 pound bow with no stabs.

I'm wondering about the lower than 5 grain stuff. Easton has had a shaft capable of that kind of performance for a while now. When people first talked about 5 grains everyone said just what is being said now about 3. Indentical arguments, it was consider insane, yatta yatta. I just wonder whether the current conservatism is any more justified. It stands to reason that if amo and IBO are willing to essentialy stand behind 6 or 5 grains for every modern bow, there is some bow out there that can do 4.9, maybe 3.9.