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Old 01-11-2004, 03:45 PM   #1
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Default **Bowtech Liberty....Forgiveness/Accuracy put to the test.**

I know I promised some sort "official" update of the Liberty after I got some time behind it so I think I have a nice opportunity to do so now.......I haven't done the customary technical ins and outs ,shooting thru the chronograph etc. and I am going to pass on any formal "Bow Report" (Jeff is better at it anyway[&o]), but I will give you an example of how the bow is performing for me.

I shot my first winter league 3D shoot this morning with the Liberty. I have a Pro40 on order , but until that bow gets here I figured that I will have to "Make due" for 3D with the Liberty until then.
I have to chuckle at that thought now.

For those of you NOT in the North Eastern USA right now it's not exactly what you would call balmy weather.......on the way to the shoot at 7AM the bank thermometer was registering 6 degrees F.!!! [] What better way to test the forgiveness of a new bow! (I should have been testing the forgiveness of my nice warm pillow)
So I was bundled up complete with gloves , chemical handwarmers, knit hat and a Carter thumb trigger!! Numb fingers and back tension........NICE.

For those of you that are not 3D shooters we shoot IBO Hunter Class rules with unmarked yardage targets (30 total) set out to a max of 35 yards.......The scoring uses the pressed outlines on the vitals of the target. The "Lung" area scores an 8, the larger circle in the vitals scores a 10, and the smallest inner circle score an 11 or "X".
Anywhere in the body outside the entire lung area scores a 5. (The "Double Bogey" of 3D shooting.[X(]

So here I am, 1st shoot of the season with no practice, Freezing my butt off in 6 degree weather and a 33" ATA hunting bow set at 71# and I shot a 310/330 possible score. 292 w/ 18X's (X's scored 11)= 310
Only shot (4) 8's.
When I was done and tallying up the score I thought......"Holy Crap, this is my HUNTING bow!"
If I had a stupid baseball hat on I would have had a shot at cleaning the entire course ,but I shot all 4 of my "8's" in a string of 5 targets right in the beginning that were positioned right in front of the bright winter sun. That was tough.

My buddy Frank shot very well with his Liberty as well......A couple "Cold weather zingers" but overall very good.

This bow does not feel or shoot ANYTHING like a short ATA bow.....it feels every bit as stable , accurate and forgiving as my Pro40 Dually from last season.
Even at 71# and over 30 targets in near zero weather it drew like a a 60# target bow on a warm spring day. It's going to be a cold weather hunter's dream.
Before the start of the shoot at the warm up range I was paying attention to other bows and our 2 Liberties were easily the quietest bow on the line even at just a hair above 5grs/lb.

My set-up for today's shoot:
BowTech Liberty
30"/71#
Spot-Hogg "Hogg-it" sight
Trophy Taker "Shakey Hunter" rest
Stealth 8" "Hunter" stabilizer
Tru-peep,loop around 2 tied in nock sets
Hush kit
Carbon Express CXL 350's w/4" feathers @ 357grs.
Carter "Just Cuz" release.

I am so THOROUGHLY pleased with the performance of this bow I can't further describe it without sounding like I'm a nut job. Too late huh?
It's just the most impressive bow I have ever owned.

I'm not implying that the Liberty is the best choice in a 3D target bow, what I am trying to get across is that this bow WILL do double duty even better than I would have expected. As a short ATA hunting bow? WOW.

What I can't help but wonder now is how well my Pro40 Freedom cam and it's longer ATA and 8 1/4" brace height is going to do as a 3D rig?[:-]
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Matt,
Thats very impressive.[] The Liberty is my new hunting bow and I am very excited that I will be hunting with it this year.
6 degrees...[] I think I might have stayed in my nice warm bed.
Congrats, Camo
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Old 01-11-2004, 06:05 PM   #3
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Definetly a dedicated BowTechaholic,thank's for the report Matt.

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Old 01-11-2004, 06:33 PM   #4
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Sounds like a good time, even if the weather was "less than perfect"!

The Liberty definetly shoots/feels like a much larger bow than it really is! The draw cycle doesn't hurt either. Neither does the absolute shock free shot. Or the balance of the bow. The good speed doesn't hurt. The large brace height isn't too bad either. That grip may have also had something to do with it..... and the................

Now lets see if you can do that on a big ol PA buck this comming season
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Matt , good report and sounds like I should really enjoy my Justice in the cold weather but about being crazy and 6 degree weather???? What could you have been thinking??? Man I love to shot 3-D but not at 6 degrees ?? I don't even ask my bow to go out at those temps.[:-]
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Old 01-11-2004, 08:39 PM   #6
 
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Thanks for the report Matt. I'm anxious to shoot some 3D with my Liberty. But since deer season is still in until the 31st, I'll have to miss the first few weeks of 3D. Unless of course I fill my buck tag first.
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Matt...you left out one important detail... The guy that we were shooting with, who was by himself and joined in at target #4. Made a huge statement and I was not sure that Matt caught it. Matt had just drilled a standing bear at about 27-29 yards, IN THE FREAKIN BLINDING SUN, and the guy said "Man that bow is just solid and so smooth, it never moved, Great shot! I thought that that spoke a lot of the Bowtechs. I mean we never even met this guy before. He turned out to be a real nice guy, and we had a good time shooting 3-d's ina balmy 9 degree morning............jm 2 cents.

By the way good shooting today Matt.[8D]
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Matt, sounds like some good shooting, given the conditions. I shot my first INDOOR 3D league yesterday. We have the good sense to stay inside, in January, here in Ohio.
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Seems to be some descrepency in the temperature there guys... Frank says it was 9 degrees, Matt says 6 degrees... which was it boyz?

I mean come on, three degrees is big difference... just as big as a chrono having a 2 fps. variance or the axle to axle length measuring 1/32" off the advertised specs... [&:]
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YEA!!!! Was that bear at 27 or actually 29 yards????? Which was it for sure, and while on the subject of the sun, what was the exact of the angle????? In independent tests, a sun angle of more than 17 degrees doesen't have any affect on 3D shooting!!!!!! So is the sun really your excuse?????[&:]
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