Paper tune???
08-23-2017, 06:52 AM
#4
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 12,746
Jose - what Rockport said. However I quit paper tuning a long time ago. I set up my bows with everything square then I tune from there with both field tips and broadheads. Some of the best advice is in this forum on the stickys above. A very good one is "Don't stop at walkback".
08-23-2017, 07:59 AM
#5
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,359
Jose - what Rockport said. However I quit paper tuning a long time ago. I set up my bows with everything square then I tune from there with both field tips and broadheads. Some of the best advice is in this forum on the stickys above. A very good one is "Don't stop at walkback".
08-23-2017, 12:45 PM
#6
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kansas
Posts: 3,903
I still paper tune - bare shaft, however, then confirm everything else as I add more and more to the shaft.
In fairness, it's been many years since I felt any of it was necessary, and frankly, I've nearly convinced myself to shoot bare shafts with broadheads for hunting, since under 40yrds, I just don't need steerage.
In fairness, it's been many years since I felt any of it was necessary, and frankly, I've nearly convinced myself to shoot bare shafts with broadheads for hunting, since under 40yrds, I just don't need steerage.
08-23-2017, 01:41 PM
#7
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,359
I still paper tune - bare shaft, however, then confirm everything else as I add more and more to the shaft.
In fairness, it's been many years since I felt any of it was necessary, and frankly, I've nearly convinced myself to shoot bare shafts with broadheads for hunting, since under 40yrds, I just don't need steerage.
In fairness, it's been many years since I felt any of it was necessary, and frankly, I've nearly convinced myself to shoot bare shafts with broadheads for hunting, since under 40yrds, I just don't need steerage.
08-23-2017, 03:17 PM
#8
Typical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 995
In a way sort of yes Rockport. I think Nomercy is using very high FOC arrows. That, in theory, will allow for arrows without vanes or feathers to fly reasonably straight. You have to have some very stiff shafts as well to accomplish any semblance of repeatable accuracy. At least that is what my limited knowledge leads me to think.
08-23-2017, 03:53 PM
#9
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kansas
Posts: 3,903
I try to run 12-15% FOC, and with my bows, I have to run 250 or 300 spines. Any time I get in new shafts, I do almost everything bareshaft tuning, and when I'm well practiced as I prefer to be when I'm tuning, I'll ruin arrows at 40yrds even bareshaft. I haven't tried it with the Montec's I've been shooting the last couple years, but when I set up my first 2 dozen Velocity Pro's, I tried some of my 125grn Rages instead of field points - they printed small enough on target to easily and handily kill deer. I lean that as an advantage of binary cam bows and fast fall away rests - they leave the bow straight and true, and with a moderate FOC (what I call moderate), they keep flying that way.
I messed around with steerage a bunch in college and a few years after, working with feathers and helicals, tall vanes, long vanes, whatever was out there. Then I started shooting more bareshaft during tuning - I run "no offset" now, which is really 1degree on my jig, and usually just stick on blazer's since they last forever.
That said - I might go back to feathers and dipped & spun crests on my next set of arrows, just for the style, absolutely no other reason than throwing some retro onto my rig.
I messed around with steerage a bunch in college and a few years after, working with feathers and helicals, tall vanes, long vanes, whatever was out there. Then I started shooting more bareshaft during tuning - I run "no offset" now, which is really 1degree on my jig, and usually just stick on blazer's since they last forever.
That said - I might go back to feathers and dipped & spun crests on my next set of arrows, just for the style, absolutely no other reason than throwing some retro onto my rig.
08-23-2017, 05:14 PM
#10
Typical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 995
The last 3 dozen arrows dad made was for that new Bowtech which all in all the only thing I had to change adjustment on was the peep and kisser button distance apart. My face is just a tiny bit longer than his was. He built those Maxima red SD shafts with 2" blazers 1*off and set them up for 100 grain tricks. I know shooting that dang bow and my old Hoyt raptor is like going from night to day. I'll use the old Hoyt this season since I really didn't practice a lot with that Bowtech but next year them deer better look out.