new bow with carbon arrows

Jerseyjoe9499 · 09-26-2003, 07:28 AM

I just found this website the other day. It has been very informative. I recently purchased a new Hoyt Magnatech cam and a half bow with new Easton carbon arrows. I am having a problem with the arrows. Its seems that they are swaying side to side when released. I am shooting fairly decent groups but some of the arrows are slightly turned to the left or right in the target. The bow is setup is, 30 inch draw 63 lb, 65% letoff and I shoot with a release. I am still up in the air about these carbon arrrows but the bow tech at the store told me that they are a good arrow for the bow. I guess my question is what adjustments do I need to make to the bow or is the nature of the arrow?

Arthur P · 09-26-2003, 09:59 AM

Welcome to the forum!

Before adjusting the rest or anything, I' d ask a few questions. How many arrows have you shot through it at this point? Were the arrows shooting straight when you first brought the bow home? If so, has the fishtailing just now become apparent?

If you' ve shot 150 to 200 arrows at this point, and if the arrows were shooting good in the beginning and just now started fishtailing, my first guess is the string and cable lengths have settled into their service lengths, which has lowered your brace height. Probably increased the axle to axle length as well. All bows do this, so it' s nothing to worry about. The string and cables just need to have their lengths adjusted, but that requires a bow press. Take it back to the shop and get it done.

Once you' re to that point, that' s when you can finally start doing the real tuning on the bow.

Jerseyjoe9499 · 09-26-2003, 11:01 AM

I have shot about 150 arrows till this point. The fishtailing has been occuring since I started shooting the bow. I just thought that it might be the arrows because they are carbon arrows and I have not used these before. I plan on taking the bow back to the store and letting them take a look at the settings. I hate to start messing with the adjustements until I am fully comfortable with what I am doing.

c903 · 09-26-2003, 11:09 AM

IMO, the jury is in on carbon shafts. I personally would mount a " Whackin' Basket" before I would ever go to any type or quality of carbon shafts; especially for hunting purposes.

See what you have to look forward to, Art?

Jerseyjoe9499 · 09-26-2003, 11:15 AM

I am not comfortable with the carbon arrows. The only reason I purchased them is because the salesman liked them and he uses them himself which is not a valuable point on there effectivness. I am intrested in trying something else. Any suggestions? I have always used Easton arrows in the past so I am thinking of trying another type.

Arthur P · 09-26-2003, 11:52 AM

C- like I' ve said, I' ve been wrestling with carbon arrows pretty much since this ICS stuff came along. That' s why I' ve been so impressed with the ones Jeff sent me. AND I' ve done the speed thing. AND I' ve done the single cam thing. AND I' ve done the release thing. AND fiddling around with all that junk is what sent me back to trad. I' d rather be shooting than trying to keep all that stuff adjusted.

Jersey, in this instance, it' s not the arrows as much as it is your bow' s tune. I' ve nothing but trouble getting broadheads to shoot well with carbon (until a few days ago), but never with field points.

Your string and cables should be settled in now where they will stay... for awhile. Strings and cables stabilize somewhat but never quit creeping. They will continue to get longer and longer until the day you replace them and start all over again. Some are better, some are worse. Factory Hoyt strings are in the worse category.

Step 1. Go get the string and cables adjusted.

Step 2. Head over to Easton' s website and download their tuning guide.

Step 3. Follow the instructions in the guide. I' m more favorable to the bare shaft test than I am to paper testing.

That should get you sorted out (or totally confused

).

About the arrows, I' ve been shooting Easton aluminum arrows for a long time. For sheer accuracy and easy tuning, there is nothing better. They do bend and wear out, but if you hit what you aim at, you don' t bend all that many. (Whether a lot of guys believe it or not, carbon arrows warp and wear out too.) With a release, I' d go with XX78' s because of the tuneable nock system. That nock system is also available in XX75 on Gamegetter III' s and a little bit easier on the wallet.

If you' re really froggy and don' t mind spending $140 a dozen for arrows, ACC' s are nice. VERY nice. Some of best benefits of carbon combined with the best benefits of aluminum.

But for now, I' d not worry too much about the arrows and just concentrate on getting the bow tuned.

Jerseyjoe9499 · 09-29-2003, 06:54 AM

Thanks for the information. I have downloaded the guide and will work on tuning the bow.

Jerseyjoe9499 · 09-30-2003, 10:23 AM

I took the bow back to the shop and it turns out that the nock was set wrong. Hopefully I will be able to get some decnt groups and fine tune the setup.