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Old 09-12-2003, 08:44 PM   #21
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Being that my buddies and I will be hunting with our recurves this season, I really feel like we should wear a loin cloth and walk like an ape
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Old 09-12-2003, 11:57 PM   #22
 
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Furthermore, if the standard max-cam was "good enough", why worry about bringing out the SL type cams in the first place? If they just wanted a smoother drawing cam, they could have gone back to the designs prior to the max-cam.
Anyone who has ever bashed a Mathews or witnessed the bashing knows the answer to that question....MARKETING!!!

Archers are ASKING for level nock travel...they get what they ask for ( case and point....sub 32" ATA bows!?!?!?![])

Mathews hasn' t put on a " level" cam on the target bows YET...they won' t next year...unless we demand it! They KNOW level doesn' t mean squat!

Look at the Anti-Hoyt adds Mathews has out. BOY that Hoyt draw travel looks AWFULL don' t it? How well is Hoyt doing with the new bow? Pretty damn good as far as I can see. No mater that it DOESN' T have level nock travel (or straight for that matter) They have DAMN good ARCHERS!!!!

THAT is the key. Most ANY bow today is inherently accurate. BETTER than most archers by far!!! It' s only the archer that puts the arrow in the target...and most any bow WILL do. (within reason...it DOES need to be tuned to shoot to it' s potential).

I LOVE the idea of level nock travel....kept me from buying a couple of bows for a while...not anymore.

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Old 09-13-2003, 05:58 AM   #23
 
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The Hoyt/Mathews mess is nothing more than the " let' s see who wins total sales this year" kids-on-the-playground-at-recess BS.

Hybrids that offer straight and level travel WILL take the market by storm in 2004 by virtually every major manufacturer.....

Count on it.
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Old 09-13-2003, 06:11 AM   #24
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Archers are ASKING for level nock travel...they get what they ask for
Again, if it matters not, why would the archers be asking for it? Fact is, it does matter,but as Arthur put it, as long as it' s not extreme (like it was prior to the max-cam) it' s not hard to work around.

Also you did not read what I said thoroughly. [:' (] I said :

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It is my speculation that at least up to this point Mathews has not been able to figure out how to design a long axle to axle parallel limb bow that supplies the wanted/needed speed for 3D and also provides the nock travel benefits of the straight-line cam design
I did not mention level. We are mostly in agreement here. I don' t think level is as crucial as long as nock travel is straight and pretty close to level (and I used the example of my legacy in an earlier post). My quoted sentence above is exactly what I meant.

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Look at the Anti-Hoyt adds Mathews has out. BOY that Hoyt draw travel looks AWFULL don' t it?
As Mathews depicts it in that ad, yes it certainly does.

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Mathews hasn' t put on a " level" cam on the target bows YET
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I LOVE the idea of level nock travel
Again, you are not understanding my points.

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That I do. However this discussion is not about what I, you, or anyone else should shoot, it is a discusion of the various different cam systems as compared to one another (as evidenced by the original question posted by Nicolas):

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What is the biggest difference in twin cam and solo cam bows. Is accuracy, quietness, forgiveness better with one than the other?

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Old 09-13-2003, 11:42 AM   #25
 
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Yes, I DID read, and understand your points.
The point I am trying to make is that IF straight and level nock travel WAS important, the WOULD make a target bow that used it. Be it with a HUGE riser, and parallel limbs or what ever. They SAY the new HP cam is the fsatest they ever made....AND most straight/level. It COULD be put in the Conquest 3 (being it is Mathews' FASTEST cam) and in THEORY, would be one hell of a shooter. But they don' t.
Thay admitedly use a slower cam with less level nock travel...and it works dandy.
As I have stated, I don' t feel there is an inherent accuracy advantage with any of the set-ups. The Archer is the limiting factor (otherwise we' d ALL be shooting Dartons, and getting 300 60x scores).
As for quietness, the solo seems to have an edge, though I bet Art' s bow beats the best of them
Hence the reason for my advice to all. It doesn' t matter...shoot what works for you.
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Now what guy would rather be SINGLE than have a pair of TWINS? and what' s a hybrid, anyway? I' ll take twins any day. That' s what we' re talking about, right? uh... better reread.


Seriously, after shooting my dual shoot-through (Mv2 Fury-X XRG) bow all summer, picking up my single cam (Altitude) was a bit of a shocking experience. Besides the ATA seeming incredible short, I was suprised how quiet it was. Virtually no noise. I also had more fliers than I was getting with the dual cam, and the draw felt harsher. Timing is basically a non-issue with UltraCam or 452. I was a bit scared of timing the 2cam, but after setting it 3 months ago, it hasn' t moved a bit. Creep tuning was not difficult either. I may migrate to dual for hunting next year, as they have become my favorite. I think hybrids are just a step in the right direction. Keep improving the single cam and you end up with a dual cam.
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