Question for the shooting coaches out there.

[mfd1027]

OK, JeffB, TFox, SwampCollie and you other Guru's we all turn to for technical advice. From an accuracy pt. of view is it preferrable to pull hard against the back wall or should you relax and shoot off the front of the wall for lack of a better description. I find that I shoot a lot better pulling against the wall. Am I somewhat negating the effect of 80% let off by doing so. Just wondering.

Dan

[TFOX]

I pull hard against the wall(especially on high letoff bows) but like a bit more give in the cam,Not a real fan of the rock hard draw stops.

It comes down to personal preference.

[TFOX]

I might add,I am not a "coach",but I did stay at a Holliday Inn last night.

[SwampCollie]

I'm a level 2 NFAA coach (although I've never formally coached at all... but I teach dozens of new shooters every week, and am constantly re-finishing older archers with bad habits who are willing to listen).

While this is pretty grad level stuff that I normally wouldn't get all that involved with Dan, I would say overwhelmingly that pulling into the wall would be preferable to shooting from the front of it; if for no other reason than it is much much easier to be exactly the same every single time. The only issue you run into is that occasionally if you focus too hard on pulling into the wall rather than working the shot... or really just aiming.... then you will start pulling shots high... that is also typically experienced when an archer is shooting too LOW a poundage on their bow (yes there is such a thing as too little.. even in target archery... although too much is far and away more common).

More than anything else... you need to find what is repeatable and comfortable for you personally.

[TFOX]

This whole thread is a a good reason for creep tuning.Very hard to do with some of todays bows that are either back,or down as far as the valley is concerned.I am fortunate that I have acces to a Hooter Shooter for this and it takes much of the guess work out of this part of the tuning process.

[dryridge2]

Hard against the wall.

That's the only way you can achieve a good suprise back tension release.

[drockw]

Originally Posted by SwampCollie

I'm a level 2 NFAA coach (although I've never formally coached at all... but I teach dozens of new shooters every week, and am constantly re-finishing older archers with bad habits who are willing to listen).

While this is pretty grad level stuff that I normally wouldn't get all that involved with Dan, I would say overwhelmingly that pulling into the wall would be preferable to shooting from the front of it; if for no other reason than it is much much easier to be exactly the same every single time. The only issue you run into is that occasionally if you focus too hard on pulling into the wall rather than working the shot... or really just aiming.... then you will start pulling shots high... that is also typically experienced when an archer is shooting too LOW a poundage on their bow (yes there is such a thing as too little.. even in target archery... although too much is far and away more common).

More than anything else... you need to find what is repeatable and comfortable for you personally.

Yes and yes. I find that if im too aggressive in pulling with my shot, that I also lose stability (pin moves more). When pulling super hard like you were saying, you are changing the balance point of the bow, and physics tell us, that which ever side has less weight, the other side will rise.

I also notice just as much though that if im not into the wall enough, vice versa. Youve just got to find that perfect spot where your can control the bow at the break of the shot.

I do agree about the not enough weight as well. TFOX actually got me to bump up and try a bit more weight and it helped a bunch in how well I held the bow. Alot more solid and balanced.

hold softer<hold harder imo.