On the 2007 Guardian with grey cams-I had never encountered one until tonite- and I've recently had sev people (whose opinions I respect) tell me they were great bows- especially the 2007/grey cams.
I found a brand new one-in Fuggly Oak Obsession- leftover obviously, for a very good price.
I shot it, albeit with 30" mods, and its completely dead in the hand like the Admiral, and super quiet, but the thing I loved was even at 30" the draw is MUCH smoother-no bumps and a little less torquey. Seemed very fast (obviously at 30") I was really impressed..it was def a "wow" bow for me. If it felt that good nearly 2"" too long...well.....
So here's my questions-
1) what were the advertised specs- brace, A2A, IBO speeds, mass weight,etc
2) are 1/2" modules available? Are there smooth mods & speed mods? are there different mods for different letoff? How does it work with those cams
3) Any known issues? major cam lean problems? The bow has a brand new set of limbs on it that were just put on tonite (original 50 pounders swapped out for new 70 pounders).
Thanks in advance- I expect some answers from Pat, Matt, Phil, etc- I know Dan, Vic, Greg, Rob & Russ will give me the time of the day but you other guys gotta step it up too, K? [:@]
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On the 2007 Guardian with grey cams-I had never encountered one until tonite- and I've recently had sev people (whose opinions I respect) tell me they were great bows- especially the 2007/grey cams.
I found a brand new one-in Fuggly Oak Obsession- leftover obviously, for a very good price.
I shot it, albeit with 30" mods, and its completely dead in the hand like the Admiral, and super quiet, but the thing I loved was even at 30" the draw is MUCH smoother-no bumps and a little less torquey. Seemed very fast (obviously at 30") I was really impressed..it was def a "wow" bow for me. If it felt that good nearly 2"" too long...well.....
So here's my questions-
1) what were the advertised specs- brace, A2A, IBO speeds, mass weight,etc
2) are 1/2" modules available? Are there smooth mods & speed mods? are there different mods for different letoff? How does it work with those cams
3) Any known issues? major cam lean problems? The bow has a brand new set of limbs on it that were just put on tonite (original 50 pounders swapped out for new 70 pounders).
Thanks in advance- I expect some answers from Pat, Matt, Phil, etc- I know Dan, Vic, Greg, Rob & Russ will give me the time of the day but you other guys gotta step it up too, K? [:@]
A to A 33 3/4", IBO 317fps-325fps, weight?? guessing 4 1/2#
1/2" mods are available, just the one CPmod no smooth and speed mods, on letoff 65% is obtained by a different draw stop not sure. I shot mine at 80%.
The issues were few and far between in my experience. It was a Great bow, but the Captain which replaced it is definitely a step up. If you are getting a great deal on it, I'd go for it in a heartbeat.
1/2 modules, DL 25-30, no smooth/speed mods (the mods are CP prefix), there is a little black bushing that you put on the top mod to get 65% letoff (remove for 80%)
I have Commanders and I love them.
Edit: fix an error
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This did not have a draw stop like the new bows or a 82nd limb stop- just looked to be a flat area at the end of the module? IDK for sure, I didn't examine it all that closely just shot it when the tech got it put back together after putting the new limbs on. It felt like less than 80% letoff- but then again I was overdrawn nearly 2"..
I've shot the Captain alot, and it def looks cooler and is lighter, but the Guardian draws much smoother/more evenly through the entire draw and doesn't have the wierd sight window cut-(which is an issue for me on the Captain).
anyone else? I'm all ears
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No 1/2 modules, DL 25-30, no smooth/speed mods (the mods are CP prefix), there is a little black bushing that you put on the top mod to get 65% letoff (remove for 80%)
I have Commanders and I love them.
Ugggg..no 1/2" mods? [:@][:'(]
wait a minute...Dan says Yes? EDIT- see you corrected yourself- whew
Anyone know what mods I would need for a 28.5 draw? Shop says they have mods, but I don't know exactly which ones-
Thanx for the info Bruce- they sold the last Commander the othe rnight- it was an 08 with the black cam and it also was very smooth.
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I would jump all over the guardian if you like it. I know people who still shoot them for 3d. I wish i would have gotten on instead of getting a general when i did It was great, but too short.
I'm gonna think about it for a few days- plus I need to wait for some $ to come in from my alphamax (we just didn't get along consistently-no contest compared to the Admiral which I can pick up and shoot no problem at any time-which I proved to myself again last night)
After looking into it, The Guardian seems very similar spec-wise to my Admiral- speeds would be similar, Admiral has a bit more brace. But boy that guardian sure does draw smooth.
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It was great, but too short.
