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Old 03-01-2003, 08:58 PM   #1
 
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I just started shooting a indoor league, and I have noticced a problem.
When I sight through the peep onto the pins and consentrate on the target, my pins seem to dissapear. Is this normal, or is there something I can do to fix this???
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Wash,

This can be a common occurence. The experts tend to disagree on this one a bit. Some stress that you need to focus on your pins and let the target blur while others tend to stress letting the pins blur and focusing on the target. I tend to prefer the latter, which you use, as I believe that we subconsciously aim the pins while focusing on the target.
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I had heard that somewhere,To focus on your target and let the pins blur and thats how i' ve been shooting and it seems to work good for me.
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For the first few moments I tend to go back a forth between blurring the pins and the target. But at the last instant I focus on the target and let the pin blur.
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Generally, people say focus on the pin and let the target blur. One reason indoors is that a blurred spot is still a spot, it really doesn' t look all that different. Not true with a blurred deer.

Recently, I think a number of the top shooters are not looking at the pin, but their focus is on the target, and as has been mentioned, they are " floating the pin" letting it visually center by itself.

This is a vital issue, and what it relates to is getting the shot down to one thought only. The more highly evolved master shooters have done this by letting their training deal with everything, and to think only of one thing. Jay Barrs, the gold medallist, eventually got it to the point where he floated the pin, and his only thought was keeping his form strong, everything else just happens.

What concerns me is that if one isn' t at that level, one can have monkey mind where the brain is just leaping from point of concentration to point of concentration. To employ advanced techniques, like floating the pin, one has to have streamlined the shooting process to the point where it is all on autopilot. You don' t have to be a gold medallist, but you can' t be fighting a host of problems like steady hold, release, visual focus, mental game and so forth. It has to be wired. The difference between the pin fixated and the pin floating school is enormous. The former uses the pin as a means of single point discipline. the latter has single point focus already. It is a big gap.

With pins, you have the additional complication of trying to do all this with multiple points in your sight!. A single pin there, or a pin with an plain aperture where legal, might really help with indoor lanes shooting in the winter.
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if you can, try shooting with both eyes open. helps me to see the pins and the tgt or the game. in shooting a firearm you are supposed blur out the tgt. this allows for a true center of the tgt to be found subconsciously. with a bow i disagree because the margin of error is bigger. look at the pins to get on tgt then blur them slightly while refocusing on the tgt. goodluck
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I have never noticed this problem. But, I always shoot outdoors. One thing that I can tell you is that when I am hunting, I never really remember seeing the pins when I am aiming. I think that this is mostly due to adrenaline. I have pretty much gotten to where I mysteriously automatically aim on my target in my yard. It is hard to describe. I always keep my form perfect (atleast try to), and, when I do that, I just seem to know where the pins go. It works for me, on my target in my yard, I can put 3 arrows in a 1" group from 15-20 yards. At 25-30 yards, I am hitting more of a 2-2 1/2" circle. 45 yards, I am hitting about a 4" circle, and at 50 yards, I am hitting a 6" circle. I will only take hunting shots that are 25 yards or less, even though I know I can easily put a arrow in the kill zone at 35-40 yards. There is just too many things that can go wrong with that distance.

One suggestion that I can give you is try focusing on the target then, try focusing on the pins and see which one gives you better groups.
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