New qad rest, and a shooting problem?

blondiez24 · 09-19-2007, 03:20 PM

Well I got the qad ultra rest, and it fits my hoyt. It seems to work really good. I have a problem though. This is the first time I have had this problem and I can't figure it out. When I draw my bow back, and start to aim at the bullseye, I settle right below the bullseye and cannot pull my sight pin up to the bullseye for anything. I can hold it steady as can be right under the bullseye about 4 or 5 inches, but it is really tough to pull the bow up those few inches. When I try to I start shaking a lil bit and can't really release a good shot. The windage is alright I am always right below the bullseye. It is really aggravating because I really want to try out my new rest. Does anyone know why I am doing this? Thanks

sr77 · 09-19-2007, 04:18 PM

It is not the rest. You have what is know as target panic, which has many symptoms one of which is locking below the target, punching the release, snap shooting etc.. Try standing close(3 yds.)to a blank bale with your eyes closed and shoot without worrying about aiming. You can also aim at he target and just aim without shooting, keep your finger off the trigger. Look up Target Panic under search, there are many threads covering this topic.

Shane

passthru79 · 09-19-2007, 04:34 PM

If your holding really steady I dont think its target panic. I would try raising your peep up just a hair that will drop your anchor point a little and might help you with bringing your bow arm up a tad.

blondiez24 · 09-19-2007, 07:12 PM

I didn't think it was the rest. It was weird I haven't shot since last week, and then I put on the new rest and go out and can't get it to pull up to the target. It is reallly weird. Is it like just a mind thing? It feels like you are holding a 10 pound bow when trying to raise it up those few inches. I am only steady when settled below it, but when I try to pull up to the center I start shaking andfighting to pullthe bow upwards. Is there like any thing that causes this to start? I've never had this problem in the 10 years I've been shooting bows.

passthru79 · 09-19-2007, 07:19 PM

Sometimes if your grip changes, it tends to keep your bow pointed downward. If your string stretched some that might cause it. I have noticed if you draw your bow back pointed below the target it can be a pain trying to rais it up to the bullseye, draw it pointed just slightly up and bring it down to the target. Im kinda running out of ideas. Its one of those things I would almost have to see in order to figure out the exact problem. Hope this helps, good luck.

blondiez24 · 09-19-2007, 07:27 PM

Well my grip didn't change. I tried drawing above the target and lowering down, but it seemed I couldn't settle on the bullseye when I lowered it down, I was too shakey. I guess the strings could have stretched. What happens makeing someone do this when the strings stretch? I have the timeing marks on my top wheel of my hoyt it is the dual track idler wheel, I think my cam is the versa cam. The string is still in between the 2 marks, but right at the edge. So should I twist the strings to make it back in between the center of the marks perfectly? I searched for target panic and it kept showing no results found. I've never really searched before so I might be doing something wrong.

passthru79 · 09-19-2007, 07:43 PM

If your string stretches some it can make you change your anchor point and possible make you straighten your bow arm more. If your bow arm is to far extended the only means of raising your bow would be by using your shoulder. If the draw length is right you should have a slight bend in your elbow allowing you to use your shoulder and elbow to adjust height. That would be my best guess on what has happened. As long as your target is the same height off the ground as it has been. If your having to aim at a taller target that could do it also. I really dont think your problem is target panic, my deffinition of target panic is the stabbing, jerking of the realese when you settle the pin on the bullseye and your brain subcontiously screams "NOW"!!! to your trigger finger.

blondiez24 · 09-19-2007, 07:52 PM

That sounds like its more my problem. I'll twist the strings until the mark is perfectly lined up again. I never actually thought about the draw length being a little too long. Would even a 1/4 to 1/2 inch of draw length being to long cause this? I hope this is what it is. I usually have a slight bend in my arm. I still do but it seems like I am leaning my head back a tad bit. Thanks for the help guys.

passthru79 · 09-19-2007, 09:37 PM

Hope that fixes your problem. Sometimes it doesnt take much when your draw is a tad long to begin with. I shoot a 29inch draw and tried a 29.5, couldnt do it I was pulling way low and left almost every shot. Good luck and keep us posted on how things go.

blondiez24 · 09-20-2007, 02:49 PM

I just had a thought, and wanted to see what you guys thought? If I twist my strings up on both sides of my idler wheel (dual track) will that mess up my nocking point? Like the hight of where my arrow nocks? If so I'll just put a few twists in each string then take it to the pro shop and have them put it back to center. How many twists would I have to put in my string to decrease the drawlength say 1/4 of an inch?