I was wondering what others thought regarding this? Do you think that coupling the quickspin 2.25" with crossfires would provide better accuracy then the quickspins with regular broadheads? I am curious as the few shots that I have shot so far with the combo have been as accurate as field tips and it got me thinking that the spin from the crossfires may add quite a bit more stability than regular broadheads. Any feedback would be appreciated.
crossfires are accurate heads, but much depends on what you mean by "regular" broadheads. If you talking standard thunderheads yes. If you talking slick tricks, sonics or any number of the smaller more compact heads, then probbably not. Take a look at my website and you will see that there are a good number of very accurate broadheads out now. www.broadheadtests.com
crossfires are accurate heads, but much depends on what you mean by "regular" broadheads. If you talking standard thunderheads yes. If you talking slick tricks, sonics or any number of the smaller more compact heads, then probbably not. Take a look at my website and you will see that there are a good number of very accurate broadheads out now. www.broadheadtests.com
Thanks I will take a look. I was just thinking that since the crossfires have the rotating heads, with the flanges, that this combo (the only one of its type to my limited knowledge) would add extra rotation and stability over a broadhead that was fixed, when coupled with quickspins?
Good thinking on your part Red. My wife shoots crossfires with good accuracy and my buddy shoots Quickspins and Phantoms with good accuracy. The quickies definitely spin faster, but he and both put a wicked helical on them, so really any vane is going to really get spinning out of our bows with as severe a helical as we put on them. I would think you have landed on a pretty good setup though.
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Thanks I will take a look. I was just thinking that since the crossfires have the rotating heads, with the flanges, that this combo (the only one of its type to my limited knowledge) would add extra rotation and stability over a broadhead that was fixed, when coupled with quickspins?
Are you thinking that the Crossfires spin in flight? They don't. Hold the shaft lightly on your fingernails or set it up on some ball bearing rollers and blow on the blades; you'll see that it rotates the whole shaft and not just the head. Their main benefit is that they allow the shaft to continue to rotate on impact and allow the head to rotate around/glance off bone rather than having to cut through it, both should contribute to penetration but I haven't found that the rotating feature of either the Crossfire or the Razorbak contribute to accuracy. I've actually found it to be detrimental to grouping since you can't keep the head in exact alignment with the center of the shaft. I'll get one tuned and if you rotate the head 1/4 turn it'll be out of tune, especially if the head has been shot for practice very much. The other problem I have with them is sharpening; the rotating feature drives me nuts when trying to get a stone on them. [:@] Otherwise, they're great heads.
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Thanks I will take a look. I was just thinking that since the crossfires have the rotating heads, with the flanges, that this combo (the only one of its type to my limited knowledge) would add extra rotation and stability over a broadhead that was fixed, when coupled with quickspins?
Are you thinking that the Crossfires spin in flight? They don't. Hold the shaft lightly on your fingernails or set it up on some ball bearing rollers and blow on the blades; you'll see that it rotates the whole shaft and not just the head. Their main benefit is that they allow the shaft to continue to rotate on impact and allow the head to rotate around/glance off bone rather than having to cut through it, both should contribute to penetration but I haven't found that the rotating feature of either the Crossfire or the Razorbak contribute to accuracy. I've actually found it to be detrimental to grouping since you can't keep the head in exact alignment with the center of the shaft. I'll get one tuned and if you rotate the head 1/4 turn it'll be out of tune, especially if the head has been shot for practice very much. The other problem I have with them is sharpening; the rotating feature drives me nuts when trying to get a stone on them. [:@] Otherwise, they're great heads.
I'm with KA with what he said about the problems cause I have had the samewith the crossfire. They (NAP)sell replaceable blades for them but then the tuning is guess work. They are made A okay just practicing with them dulls the blades and then try tuning with the new replacement blades creates the problem all over again - at least for me.
Ive shot crossfires with 4 inch quickspinvanes. Accuracy was awsome, I was at all impressed with the penetration of the crossfires. I shot two deer with them and only one of the shots did I even get an exit. They have a dull tip and steep blade angle, both of which can reduce penetration. I think with quickspins you dont need anymore spin. They stabilize an arrow extremely fast and actualy adding anymore spin to them can slow your arrow down faster and reduce down range energy.
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RE: Crossfire broadheads and Quickspins
Unless quickspins have changed, I dont care for them. A good blazer will stir you arrow as well, with less loss of energy and a whole lot quieter. I found quickspins to be loud and not durable at all. Not sure if they fixed the problems, because its been three years since I tried them, and at that time I couldnt get them off my arrows quick enough. I fletched up a half dozen, shot for a week and took them off and never looked back. Other than major problems with durability, I noticed a big difference in the amount of drop on my arrow at 30 yards, and a major drop from 40 on out. I dont like how they slow down your arrows. I was going to cronie them, but never even cared enough to take the time. I knew I wasnt going to be hunting with them. Also, they sound a lot like a small helicopter about to land.
Pay more attention to tuning your arrows and bow, and you will not have to deal with all the gimicks. I shoot regular 5 inch feathers with my trad bows, and 4 inch vanes with my compounds and have never had an issue with any head vane combo. I have been using blazers with one of my compounds and do like them. Just havent felt the need to change all my arrows yet. Ill probably switch to blazers with my primary hunting compound this summer. Ive got a string on the jig and when I finish my cable and string, ill change over my shafts and start a new with this bow.
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