Draw length
#2
RE: Draw length
THIS IS NOT ME
This is me after putting on new modules,I am a little short on draw here.
http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=YYwcNVjcjgU&eurl=http%3A//www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx%3Fm%3D2057510&iurl=http%3A//sjl-static13.sjl.youtube.com/vi/YYwcNVjcjgU/2.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskKkqCD_bwFd2Bc0_X6EXlCB
This is me after putting on new modules,I am a little short on draw here.
http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=YYwcNVjcjgU&eurl=http%3A//www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx%3Fm%3D2057510&iurl=http%3A//sjl-static13.sjl.youtube.com/vi/YYwcNVjcjgU/2.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskKkqCD_bwFd2Bc0_X6EXlCB
#3
RE: Draw length
This is me before I changed modules.Maybe a 1/4" long here but pretty close.I have a bad double set problem and it is getting better but not there yet.
http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=YdXv0cKiFC8&eurl=http%3A//www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx%3Fm%3D2057510&iurl=http%3A//sjc-static11.sjc.youtube.com/vi/YdXv0cKiFC8/2.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskKdKKqO9qZdv8Qze4enTl5q
#6
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kenosha, Wi USA
Posts: 499
RE: Draw length
Tough to really tell a whole lot from just one picture. Several angles, especially from directly above you looking down can give a better idea of what things look like. One picture can be deceiving.
But saying that, it looks like you anchor with your hand vertically flat against the rear portion of your face. With your head pointed toward the target (depending on your bone structure) it can be tough to find a SOLID anchor point back there. Lots of muscles in the lower/rear jaw in that area along with muscles and tendons coming up from your neck.
Look at D.Cousin's pic in the second post. See how his hand is more horizontal? He's picking up the bottom side of the jawbone more towards the front of his face. That gives a much more solid and repeatable anchor.
But archery is all about doing things in a repeatable fashion. Some people have horrible form and/or a drawlength that is way off from what is considered "good", yet can shoot lights out.Fairly rare, but possible. Releases all have different lengths from grip-to-hook, so going from one release to another may alter where your hand is on your anchor quite a bit. You need to find the best anchor FOR YOU, and then adjust the d-loop and bow drawlength to fit that anchor. Doing it the other way by adjusting your anchor to wherever the d-loop and bow drawlength may be isn't always the best idea. As I think you're finding out....
Don't know what release you were using before, but to get your knuckles to the underside of yourjaw, you'd have to shorten the draw quite a bit.
But saying that, it looks like you anchor with your hand vertically flat against the rear portion of your face. With your head pointed toward the target (depending on your bone structure) it can be tough to find a SOLID anchor point back there. Lots of muscles in the lower/rear jaw in that area along with muscles and tendons coming up from your neck.
Look at D.Cousin's pic in the second post. See how his hand is more horizontal? He's picking up the bottom side of the jawbone more towards the front of his face. That gives a much more solid and repeatable anchor.
But archery is all about doing things in a repeatable fashion. Some people have horrible form and/or a drawlength that is way off from what is considered "good", yet can shoot lights out.Fairly rare, but possible. Releases all have different lengths from grip-to-hook, so going from one release to another may alter where your hand is on your anchor quite a bit. You need to find the best anchor FOR YOU, and then adjust the d-loop and bow drawlength to fit that anchor. Doing it the other way by adjusting your anchor to wherever the d-loop and bow drawlength may be isn't always the best idea. As I think you're finding out....
Don't know what release you were using before, but to get your knuckles to the underside of yourjaw, you'd have to shorten the draw quite a bit.
#7
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Webster NY
Posts: 48
RE: Draw length
After looking at my pic here and some other ones,I have to shorten my draw length up.It isnt comfortable like this.I especially notice it when I am tired.When I shoot I am all tensed up and not relaxed.Thanks for the help
#8
RE: Draw length
Yeh, it's not the greatest pic, but it does appear that you may be leaning back and have your head tilted back also, due to a long draw length. I'd try shortening a full inch and see how it feels (looks). This should allow you to distribute your weight fairly evenly on both feet and keep your head level.
Try this. Stand erect, look at your intended target, and draw the bow. Anchor without moving your head at all. When the bow is set to about the correct length you should not have to move your head whatsoever. You make the bow fit you, not the other way around.
Of course you'll most likely have to lower the peep sight a bit as your head attitude will be different. Whatever changes you make the bow will definitely feel different. Give you mind and body plenty of time to adjust to the new feel. At least a couple weeks if you shoot almost daily.
Try this. Stand erect, look at your intended target, and draw the bow. Anchor without moving your head at all. When the bow is set to about the correct length you should not have to move your head whatsoever. You make the bow fit you, not the other way around.
Of course you'll most likely have to lower the peep sight a bit as your head attitude will be different. Whatever changes you make the bow will definitely feel different. Give you mind and body plenty of time to adjust to the new feel. At least a couple weeks if you shoot almost daily.
#9
RE: Draw length
Your front shoulder is a big problem that I see.You are pulling it up and it looks like you are pushing your chin down.I think I fixed the video.Check out the shot and yes It is about a 1/4" long.
I am not sure you are too long on draw,it may just be case of bad form.You are leaning but without seeing your feet and hips,it is impossible to say if you need to stand up straighter or just push your hips back.
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The camera was leaning so it gives the illusion that I am shooting downhill but trust me,I am completely level.
I am not sure you are too long on draw,it may just be case of bad form.You are leaning but without seeing your feet and hips,it is impossible to say if you need to stand up straighter or just push your hips back.
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The camera was leaning so it gives the illusion that I am shooting downhill but trust me,I am completely level.
#10
RE: Draw length
Here is another video that I tried before.You can see I am a little bit too short from looking at my front shoulder,see how much it is loaded up and pushing up.You need to load the shoulder a little but not to where it starts pushing up like this.If you could see me from the back,you would see that my release arm is pointing out and not back.
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