Hey guys: Saw the "hidden" discussion in MilDot's binary cam thread. It was very interesting stuff, so I thought I would try to get some info on a thread that was up there for everyone to see.
I have tried many different releases over the years, though all have been index finger triggered. I have stuck with the Winn C 10 because it feels more natural to me, and I have seemed to shoot as well with it as any. I have also tried a few wrist strap models, including a double caliper, and a Scott Rhino when I started using D loops most of the time. Still preferred the Winn and the feel of being able to draw more weight easily, but it does have some disadvantages. IMHO, it is not so easy to shoot a Winn without torquing the string. It is also difficult to get a really solid feeling anchor. It is not the easiest release to hook up to a D loop, and if you want to sneak in to your stand ready for a possible shot opportunity (afternoon), you face the choice of taking the release off, with all of that screaming Velcro noise, or risk clanging the release head on metal ladder steps when climbing up for the sit. Lastly, and more in line with your discussion on the binary thread, is that in spite of the appearance of shortness of the Winn, it is difficult to get the glove on tight enough that you are not triggering the shot with the first (most sensitive) portion of your finger. Hard to use back tension with this type of release.
Anywho, I recently got a Tru Fire Stalker, a 3 finger, caliper (more or less) style that is thumb triggered. It is still very early in the game, but I am really liking this type of release. I have been working on getting the thumb wrapped around the "trigger", and having it set off by back tension. It seems much easier to get a good surprise release with this type of release than anything I've used before. I really like the feel of the base of my index and middle finger knuckles right behind my jaw bone, and being able to tell when I'm anchored just right. I would think that, in a situation like Dave C. was talking about, I could still trigger with the thumb instead of back tension, though I haven't been trying to do that. As Ausie said, I've put the Winns away until I see for sure if this is just a promising beginning, or a permanent change. So far, so good though.
A good discussion on advantages and disadvantages of the different release types would be good for the boredom of the boards, now that the buzz over new bows seems to have died down.
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I have several that I've been playing with and I like the Copper John Eagle 3 finger, the Carter Just Cuz and the Carter Quickie. The Quickie will probably be my hunting release for a very long time but the Eagle is slowly becoming my favorite for target. I also have a Genisis wrist strap back tension coming soon and I'm anxious to play with that one also.
Shoot all you can and keep your mind open,, don't rule out anything after just a few shots. I'd also like to try the new Carter Ember II set up as a ring finger trigger
Yes they can be[:@] I was very lucky that it was my left hand and nothing was broke. I've been around all kinds of heavy equipment all my life and it's just a matter of time untill you make a mistake when working with it.
I also discovered that those pain pills work,, as long as I can keep them down[:-]
i like my 2 finger bt release. makes it very hard to cheat, and sometimes it will give you angelina jolie lips for free.
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Until these threads I FORGOT that I am in the market for a new release.
I only bowhunt (no 3-dtournies or spots) at this time so I'm not down with the target modelsor trying to squeeze every minute fraction of accuracy out of my set-up.
My Tru-ball tornado has a velcro strap that I no longer care for and the head has too much slack in it where it attaches to the shaft- making it flop around and somewhat noisy. I do however LOVE tha open and close action of the jaws for hunting situations. No accidentaly triggering the release while looking around.
My scott mongoose has the buckle strap, which I like, but I can't stand the jaws always flopping open while I'm on stand anytime my finger remotely gets near the trigger. I like to sit with my release attatched to the loop and fingers resting inside the string. Sure I unhook from time to time, but for the most part I'm ret-to-go while on stand.
I haven't tried a thumb release in a long time, but started out with one many moons ago and will reconsider giving one a shot.
The trigger open and trigger close style release is what I want, with a buckle strap, tight jaw closure, no slop where the head meets the shaftand plenty of adjustability.
Anybody know the release I'm after?
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Disclaimer- I am not now, nor ever have been a paid bow technician, any advice given is just my opinion.
Put a string loop on and get a Carter Quickie The Quickie has a deep hook that is very easy to keep on the string and you can shorten up the strap so the release head is VERY close to your baseindex finger knuckle. The Quickie won't wear your loop either. My wife has the velcro strap and I like it much better for hunting because the buckle gets caught on everything, tree branches, corn stalks, bow cables/string you name it and it catches on mine. The velcro strap is VERY secure with a double attachement and it lays very flat on the back or your wrist. You can also tuck the release head inside your cuff of your hunting jacket while walking and climbing to your stand, love mine
DaveC, I might be wrong but it sounds just like my truefire judge. I still use my Winn C 10 as well (I have two of them, can't live with out atleast one). The judge keeps your hand close to the string, pivots 360, no rattle, opens when the trigger pulled and closes when the trigger is released, available in buckles, adjusts in trigger tension and travel.
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Release types, Advantages and Disadvantages?
