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Old 07-17-2005, 12:22 PM   #1
 
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Guys,

Need help..

I know what solo cams and duel cams are but what are the advantages of the new

Hybrid Cams?
Bowtechs Binary?

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Old 07-17-2005, 05:37 PM   #2
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Both the hybrid cams and Bowtech binary cams are supposed to utilize many of the benefits of both single and dual cams without many, if any, of the drawbacks. For example, hybrid cams are slaved together and thus what affects one cam then affects the other. The cams should not really go out of synch with one another. This is the advantage over a dual cam design. In addition there are basically three "strings" for the entire assembly. A main bowstring, a return string and one cable. This lessens the impact of string stretch on the tune of the bow...an advantage that the hybrid has over the conventional single cam design.

Lastly, Bowtech's binary cam system takes it one step further. Not only is there one cable slaving the two cams together but two. In which case neither cam is linked to a limb via a cable. This then is advantage in that any fluctuations in limb movement do not directly affect nock travel or tuning issues in the way that it might affecta hybrid, dual or single cam design.

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It helps out quite a bit. Ive been using a old duel cam for awhile and am getting a new bow, and thought single cam was it.. Now it seems technology has eclipsed the previous rig to get.
Options, Options, Options..

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I think that you will find people who still prefer conventional duals, conventional solos, etc.....myself being one of them. I am shooting a binary cam bow for 3D shooting but decided to stick with a conventional solocam for hunting. The feel of the draw cycle and the overall design of the conventional solo are "comfortable" to me as I have used them almost exclusively for hunting in past years. Maybe by next year the Binary cam system will get the go.

If I may offer a suggestion, try to keep an open mind when deciding. Don't necessarily look at one as being significantly superior to the others but rather look at how each maybring its own set of benefits to the table.
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Thanks PA,

The only real consideration is one that requires little maintance/tuning. Its a long drive to a proshop, and I want something that once set up will give me little to no problems.

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From what I see it is allabout speed. More energy is transfered into the arrow. That is what I took from the article in field and stream, or NRA American hunter. Cant remember which it was. Also you are not all hooked up to your limbs with a bus cable or aim cables. Kinda the best of both worlds as PAhunter explained very well.

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I think that you will find people who still prefer conventional duals, conventional solos, etc.....myself being one of them.
I can relate. One of my favorite bows is still my 86 hoyt excel with dual excel cams. The only bow I will take to the field above it is my hoyt solo cam. But then agian, it might be because I havent played with the new hybrids.

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Its still a good idea to mark your cams/cam once you know they are in time. No matter what you choose. It makes it much easier to look at your marks to see if your cams are in time and find problems if ever needed. Some times head aches can beprevented by simply cleaning a furrow of a cam. Dirt and crude will get in there throwing off the timing, which you would detect by simply looking at your cam marks, if you took thetime to mark them. Another good idea is to get to know your set up well enough to tune yourself. I cant count the times I had something small go wrong before I head out to the field that needs tweeking. Id also suggest shooting every type of bow you are interested in. Ithink fit and feel is the most important things in considering bow and cam configurations.
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One advantage of single cams is their simplicity. The only real requirement is a professionally made string that won't stretch (I highly recommend one made from Ultracam). If you go to the trouble of getting the highest quality string put on it, then once the single cam is tuned and the string has settled, you will not have to worry about cam timing. Although there is an optimum cam position for greatest efficiency, you can shoot accurately with the cam out of this position. Put a new quality string on once each year or two and you will be all set.

This is one reason why single cams are so popular with the average hunter. It really is less complicated to get it, and keep it shooting well.
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Its still a good idea to mark your cams/cam once you know they are in time. No matter what you choose. It makes it much easier to look at your marks to see if your cams are in time and find problems if ever needed.
I would tend to agree with burnie on this issue. Every cam needs to be checked periodically for timing or synch. issues. Some of it is basic mainentance but some of it is because of peace of mind. There is nothing more rewarding than having confidence in your equipment when you head out to hunt.
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Old 07-19-2005, 08:51 AM   #9
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Good points from all, but after shooting compounds for over 30 years I've found that a lot of the issues with dual cams getting out of sync, single cam nock travel, and many other issues have little to doi with what cam system is on most of today's bows. The real culprit has been, and coninues to be poor rigging (string and cables). This is what mainly lead to the single cam craze in the first place. As for level nock travel, it's not an issue with a dual cam setup.

IMO, pick whatever system you feel comfy with, but ASAP replace the factory strings with good aftermarket ones. Of course, that is considering that your bow doesn't already come with good ones in the first place. Very few do.
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