go and get'em or try like hell to call'em back

[chickenrunn]

Take your shots.. How many people think its wrong to chase your dogs onto private land while coon hunting at night??? I never call my dogs off when I know they are on a raccoons trail in the middle of the night.. they also run cats but where I hunt their are very few if none at all. I never ever run them on leashes even as pups they ran free when we went out hunting. Is it wrong to go and get them if they run on to other peoples property: should I shoot the raccoons when they are treed??? I start on land I can hunt it is ritten permission and there is more than enouph acers to run all night and a lot of the time we run all night.

I would like all imput, if you want to trash me go ahead, but my dogs love to run and the only way to get them back sometimes is to go and get them...

[bowtruck]

in my younger days i did alot coon hunting the dogs would run across property lines nothing was said
in these days to many people complain for me to bother
however if you know you dont belong there dogs should be under control at all times how would you
like my dogs running into your house at all hours of the night barking and me just walking in to get them
my bet is you wouldnt like it

[chickenrunn]

House and land are different, if I am 80 acres away from your house would you honestly even know, I was there especially at midnight... Cameras aside.... you used to, whats the difference between then and now? How did you control your dogs when you used to run?

[bowtruck]

when i run dogs it was twenty years ago when most people didnt mind plus most were freinds

if you are 80 acres away on my land and my 120 lb pitbull eats your coonhound you will probaly be mad
what happens if i am hunting that night for yotes and shoot your dog by mistake

i dont see the diff between land and house you know if you belong in either

with that being said if i hear coondogs on my property at night id smile and remember the good ole days

[JW]

Hunting is no longera right - it is a priveldge.

Now stating that I think it is in your best interest to ask each and every landowner. I am willing to bet most will not care if asked - especially for coon. But not getting your dogs back - with you knowing they are on land you do not have wiritten permission for is wrong. Even more wrong if you shoot tht coon. I understand things happen when running dogs. Especially hounds.

If I knew they where on a coon - and the coon ran on land I do not have permssion to be on - okay - go get em and bring em back to land I do have the right to be on. I would let them tree and calling em back woudl be difficult - I'd just go get them.

but if you don't

And you shoot that coon.


Sorry but in my eyes you not only are a tresspasser but also a poacher as I may have written permsion for that property!

JW

[mustad]

Exactly JW!!!!!

[Bugflipper]

Chickenrun, it's pretty easy to keep hounds in range. E-collars will bring them back quite effectively. If you wear out before them you can leave a set of coveralls with your scent. The dogs will be there when you go to get them the next morning. Asking if illegal activity is ethical in a hunter's opinion is pretty much a no win situation. I am not here to criticize anyone. So no shots intended, just trying to relay you might be ruffling a few feathers.
Blessings

[chickenrunn]

The reason that I am asking this question is I recently did just what you explained, and then got chewed out by the land owner; for leaveing them the way I did.. He called me an irresponsible hound hunter... sorry to say but I lit in to them both; (where the dogs went) and where I turned lose.. they are brothers and have feuds every now and then... I had permission to be on one's but not the others so with them out of my E-collars range I had to leave them over night after sitting in the same spot where I turned lose for five hours hollaring and pushing that damn button till my fingure hurt...(yeah I know good way to ruin dogs) but its the only thing I could do at the time...in the morning when I got to the brothers he had been out cutting wood and shot the coon out of the tree and had asked why i didn't come and ask him and I explained it was well in to bar time and I knew he had to work the next day... and explained that I was told not to go and get them by his brother... he then said that he was gratefull for not wakeing him and gave me permission to go and get them but I had to shoot the cooon no matter where it was on his property.... so when the circustances,,, come where you can't call them back do you go and get them... story aside....

[spaniel]

Take the time to ask around BEFORE you go out...if you don't have permission you shouldn't let your dogs even run there. I know it's hard to control dogs on a trail but that doesn't change the fact that you are responsible for them.

I know one guy who runs coyotes. I was surprised to learn he bothered, no parcels are over 80 acres in the area so most people while they would like to, don't bother as they don't want to trespas.

The guy pulled out a map of the whole county with much of it highlighted. He had a file drawer full of permission slips signed by landowners, and permisison on hundreds of pracels. There were areas he could run 6-8 consecutive square miles without trespassing due to his extensive permissions. Needless to say he had a good reputation and everybody appreciated the reduction in coyotes.

[BetterBirddogs]

Let me say first that I run birddogs and while they run big they are no where near a hound. Having said that, if you don't have any control over your dogs then don't turn them loose. If I were a landowner and I find the dogs on my place treed they are gettin' killed and if I find you there illegally your going to jail for criminal tresspassing and poaching. I have permission to run dogs on a lot of ground here at my place and I keep my dogs on the places I can run. You need to do the same as a responsible dog owner. Guys like you who let their dogs run all over hell and back are the reason many guys can't get on places to run dogs anymore.