Llewellyn Setters

[orduckhunter]

I am looking at getting a Llewellyn Setter. Anyone out there have one? Tell me what you think of yours.

[GermanShorthair2]

My buddy has two Llewellyn's and they are badass birddogs! His dogs have bloodlines that date back to england and man do they have the drive to hunt.I have GSP's and would not trade them for nothing.

[sproulman]

ORIGINAL: orduckhunter

I am looking at getting a Llewellyn Setter. Anyone out there have one? Tell me what you think of yours.

only problem with the setter is hair in home and the burrs in hair in woods.

GSP in my opinion is better dog for home hair thing but both are good hunters on birds.

lab in my opinion isone i like but does not have nose of those other 2 but is better on hair at home .

lab does it all, not best but GOOD.

[hunter7198]

Just lost my setter a couple weeks ago, but to date was the best dog I had for grouse and pheasant.Hunted with plenty of other dogs but hard to beat a close working, long nosed pointing breed. Less apt to bump grouse by ground tracking like some pointers, depend more on air scent. They are longer haired and a bit more maintenence but fairly easy to clean up after a hunt.

[Phil from Maine]

a bit more maintenence but fairly easy to clean up after a hunt.

That's exactly what I am thinking, most are very easy to brush out of them. I have a friend up here that used to breed them and hunted with 3 of them. He also field trialed them and did relatively good with them. Unfortunately due to the color they were under rated. He has sence taken them into setter trials down state as well as out of state and has done well.. I am not sure of the lines he has but can say that they were great hunting dogs as well..

[sproulman]

ORIGINAL: hunter7198

Just lost my setter a couple weeks ago, but to date was the best dog I had for grouse and pheasant.Hunted with plenty of other dogs but hard to beat a close working, long nosed pointing breed. Less apt to bump grouse by ground tracking like some pointers, depend more on air scent. They are longer haired and a bit more maintenence but fairly easy to clean up after a hunt.

getting grouse in my area of pa. is very hard .

they are real wild and fly out 50 yds before you ever get there.

even with a dog that points,he almost has to point from 40 yds away.

if closer, those grouse will flush.

that is why sometimes i like a FLUSHING dog as he gets bird up quick but you have to be ready all time.


question,how far from average grouse does a setter point.

does grouse hold for you giving you enough time to get to your dog to shoot.

[hunter7198]

It depends on the dog and how you've trained them. Mine had a very long nose, got birdy and would slow and slink for as far as 50-60 yards before trimming up on point. Would always check back to make sure I was with him and seldom got closer than 10 yards, didn't bump too many birds. If you have a good relationship with your dog, they will be more willing to hunt for you. As far as grouse flushing too far away, that's always going to be a problem with older birds that have been pressured. It's a good thing anyway, the smart ones live on to breed more smart ones.....

[sproulman]

ORIGINAL: hunter7198

It depends on the dog and how you've trained them. Mine had a very long nose, got birdy and would slow and slink for as far as 50-60 yards before trimming up on point. Would always check back to make sure I was with him and seldom got closer than 10 yards, didn't bump too many birds. If you have a good relationship with your dog, they will be more willing to hunt for you. As far as grouse flushing too far away, that's always going to be a problem with older birds that have been pressured. It's a good thing anyway, the smart ones live on to breed more smart ones.....

i had good one last day of archery.

i am wayback in laural in archery.

i was sitting in my stand and at 4 pm,all of sudden, FLUSHHHHHHHH,out of the heavy laural came 3 grouse.

they were sitting there from 11 am to 4 pm and i never saw them.

so, i learned something, when wind is blowing, grouse will go to heaviest cover that you cant hunt with dog and sit.

this is why i think its hard to get a grouse in afternoon,i think they head to cover.

last week leaves were very dry.

i heard grouse flushing 50/60 yds away.

did not even see them.

my lab gave me a funny look like,WHY DID YOU NOT SHOOT.

[Mite]

I own a Llewellin and she does great for what I want. Listens well, recalls, points and sometimes fetches. This season though has been really tough. Every outing there was no wind. A minor breeze once in awhile but the air was still. It was very hard for her to pin down the location of the bird as one time she repositioned herself over and over again within a 30 foot square area. I thought she was scenting an old scent but after the upteen time, with me walking all over the area, the bird finally flushed. Kinda shows you the stubboness and birdiness of these dogs.