logo
 

Go Back   HuntingNet.com Forums > General Hunting Forums > Small Game, Predator and Trapping

Small Game, Predator and Trapping From shooting squirrels in your backyard to calling coyotes in Arizona. This forum now contains trapping information..

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-01-2012, 09:59 AM   #1
Spike
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 22
Default Predator Hunting Newbie

Hi,
I am new to predator hunting. I am still in the process of deciding which rifle/scope combo would be best for me. I will be hunting eastern coyote and fox in wooded areas. Yardages will probably be 0 - 250.
At the moment I am looking at a Kimber 84M Varmint in .204 cal. with a Leuopold VX-2 scope.
Would this be a good entry level setup.
Thank you.
JR97
jr97 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2012, 11:28 AM   #2
Nontypical Buck
 
Sheridan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location:
Posts: 2,932
Default

Kimber isn't exactly a entry level rifle that's for sure ! LoL


Two recommendations;

Spend more on your scope than you do on your rifle.

+/- 4X - 16X for good range of power & +/- 44MM for good light gathering, but low enough mount to get a good cheeck weld.
__________________
Silence is Acceptance. "To stand in silence when they should be protesting makes cowards out of men." ~ Abraham Lincoln ~ Stand Up and Be Counted !
Sheridan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2012, 01:51 PM   #3
Spike
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 22
Default

Sheridan,
Thank you for reply and suggestions. I know that the Kimber is a higher end rifle, but I wanted to start with something that would last. Any other rifle suggestions?
jr97
jr97 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2012, 08:20 PM   #4
Nontypical Buck
 
Sheridan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location:
Posts: 2,932
Default

Kimber is excellent !


This would be nice also;

http://www.winchesterguns.com/produc...p?id=535115210

All I mean to say is, to take your TOTAL budget and spend "most" of it on the scope.


+/- 4X - 16X (24X) for good range of power - 44MM (something short of 50MM) for good light gathering but allows for low mount for good cheek weld.


Something like this;

http://www.opticsplanet.net/swarovsk...iflescope.html
__________________
Silence is Acceptance. "To stand in silence when they should be protesting makes cowards out of men." ~ Abraham Lincoln ~ Stand Up and Be Counted !

Last edited by Sheridan; 02-01-2012 at 08:39 PM.
Sheridan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2012, 11:12 PM   #5
Typical Buck
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kansas
Posts: 603
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheridan View Post
Kimber isn't exactly a entry level rifle that's for sure ! LoL


Two recommendations;

Spend more on your scope than you do on your rifle.

+/- 4X - 16X for good range of power & +/- 44MM for good light gathering, but low enough mount to get a good cheeck weld.
I tend to agree with Sheridan on this one. Quality optics with enough magnification and enough resolution to actually see what you're shooting at will go a long ways.

In general, since most predator calling is either dusk or dawn, I'd also agree with the 44mm recommendation, or a 50mm with a raised cheekpiece (not hard to make your own, or several quality aftermarket models are available). I run 50mm scopes on as much as I can, plus a couple 56mm Nightforce scopes. Yes, you can tell the difference in light transmission! 30mm tubes count for a lot in the way of light transmission as well. I'm a leatherworker, so I made my own cheekpieces, but some of my buddies just use those elastic buttstock shell holders ($10) plus a few shims of trimmed foam rubber, leather, etc etc to allow proper cheekweld for these taller optics. (Or you could just shoot a scoped A2 a lot like I used to and get used to shooting heads up with a "lower jaw weld" instead of a "cheekweld", haha).

Great rifle choice. Personally, for that rig, I'd look into a Leup VX-3 LRT 6.5-20x50mm. Scope runs about $900, well worth it. The OTHER option I'd recommend would be the Bushnell Elite 6500 4.5-30x50mm, about $850, but has fantastic versatility. A 4-16x44 or 6-24x44mm are also good options, but these are hard to find with enough internal adjustment for my tastes. However, since you're limiting your shots 0-250yrds, you'll be able to easily estimate proper hold over, rather than dialing in your turrets. You could pick up a $500-600 scope like a Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50mm, Nikon Monarch 4-16x42mm, Leupold VX-2 6-18x40mm, etc etc, but ultimately, you WILL notice a difference. The Leup VX-3 LRT is a very hard scope to beat, especially if you're strapping it on top of a heavy barreled Kimber pushing .204 Ruger.
Nomercy448 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2012, 04:53 AM   #6
Nontypical Buck
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Adirondacks
Posts: 1,298
Default

In wooded areas with shots within 250 yd's I would stay away from high power scopes.A 2-7 is more than enough.I have a Leupold VX II 1-4 on one of my deer guns.Slipping through the woods I keep it down on 1.I'm certain that's gotten me three deer I wouldn't have had a chance with otherwise.IMO it would be a great choice here as well.
Bernie P. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2012, 05:26 AM   #7
Spike
 
kamoking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Northeast Texas
Posts: 14
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jr97 View Post
Sheridan,
Thank you for reply and suggestions. I know that the Kimber is a higher end rifle, but I wanted to start with something that would last. Any other rifle suggestions?
jr97
Savage fan with Nikon Monarch 4X16X50 ur choice in model and for the ranges ur describing .223 or .243 might be easier to get variety of ammo unless you reload then whatever caliber works best for you. Also consider AR platform where the sky is the limit in choices. The Savage and Monarch price about 1K, an AR with good optics about 2K.
kamoking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2012, 11:08 AM   #8
Spike
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 22
Default

Hi All,
Thank you for your replies and suggestions. A lot of choices to be made by a young first-time hunter such as myself.
jr97
jr97 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2012, 03:08 PM   #9
Spike
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Northern Indiana
Posts: 54
Default

Most 2-300 hundred guns can already shoot better than you can, spend the money of the glass.
__________________
There is many ways too skin a cat, but the cat won't like any of them.

A true sportsman will look up when someone yells DUCK!
Sluggunhunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2012, 04:34 PM   #10
Nontypical Buck
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Southeast Missouri
Posts: 1,546
Default

The Kimber is a very good choice on a really nice Rifle/Gun,and the .204 Caliber is going to do very well on taking down Coyotes,Bobcats and Foxes and not do as much damage on their Hides/Pelts!


I answered Your other question on which Caliber to choose from so I'm kinda adding to this Post too!


I would also check out the CZ-USA Model 527 Rifles,the Savage Light Weight Hunter Rifles in I'm thinking Model 11,111 or 25?The Coopers would be great but very pricey to say the least.....Remington Varmint Rifles are sweet looking too!
GTOHunter is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

 

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:53 PM.