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Old 06-18-2003, 11:53 PM   #1
 
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Old 06-19-2003, 06:52 AM   #2
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If the only difference is price and a slightly flatter trajectory for the 22-250 I' d go with the .223 in a bolt action . The .223 is good at varmint ranges , and works well on all small game .
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Old 06-19-2003, 10:35 PM   #3
 
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I don' t know what shop you WON' T find .22-250 ammunition in, every single one I' ve ever been in has it in more than three makes, let alone weights per maker! I much prefer the .22-250, flatter shooting, and don' t let them fool you, it is noticeable, especially when you use the round to its full potential.

Yes, .223 has very available surplus ammo, and it is very crappy, it' s very cheap, and still not worth the money in a gun that a guy would spend that much money on, i.e. a target/varminting rifle or a M-16knockoff. Like that commercial with the new car, chevy of some sort, and the pump man says, ' so, the super plus right?' the guy says' nah, just the super' s fine,' pumper ' really, the super?' If you put crap in your gun, you should expect it to go to crap. You get what you pay for. It' s often FMJ as well if it isn' t steel cased and berdan primed to boot, terrible for reloading, and illegal for hunting.

Remember some things when you compare yourself to the military, you don' t carry a gun to save your arse everyday, you don' t have to carry lots of ammunition to make sure your gun can save your arse, you want to kill what you hit the first time, whereas they want to wound men to draw others out to fetch him, one good shot can equal fifty dead men, you want to hit a gopher/groundhog/coyote at 400yrds consistantly, they want to hit people at under 200yrds. They switched from the .308 to the .223 (NATO rounds of course) because the 22cal is a better ' wound em' round, and because they can carry almost twice the ammunition in the same weight, and still get virtually the same effect in the battlefield.
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look into the 243;you can get light loads for varmits and then go heavyer for deer.
you can get down to 65 grains.

just a though.
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i agree with tree climber
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Old 06-23-2003, 05:53 PM   #7
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Id go with the .223.

You will be able to practice& plink for a whole lot cheaper & can still get better ammo for more serious things.
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Old 06-25-2003, 01:34 PM   #8
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Like that commercial with the new car, chevy of some sort, and the pump man says, ' so, the super plus right?' the guy says' nah, just the super' s fine,' pumper ' really, the super?' If you put crap in your gun, you should expect it to go to crap
But to use a higher octaine thats more expense , but unnessary& wastes your money too - not all cars trucks etc have to run on super etc. Or is there any impovement in using it when a car will run on regular... the gas is the same quaility otherwise far as i know& from the same suppliers etc.

octone is bosted with addatives ? use to be lead& a lubracant i thinktoo
... bet my blood has a lot of lead in it [&o]lol.

what s super plus gas detergents/ other additives etc? higner octane too?

now ammo& expensive barrels i dont know... is the fmj a cheaper type of / lower grade copper or something... military only or all makers?

Dont have any expensive rifles myself - but been shooting a bit t of danish m 1 grand ammo in my savage & cheap russki in my cheap chinese sk.

And 223. isreali& american made & a lot of 9 mm from various counrtys all fmj.

cant say i can tell any problems with it-- Did you mean more barrel wear nomercy?


But i do know a chevy can go a 1/4 of a million miles on reg .gas.....well some of them.



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That is an easy one.
Buy a .223 in a sporter weight barrel and don' t look back.
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Old 06-28-2003, 06:29 PM   #10
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IF YOU WANT A .223 I' LL SELL YA MY MINI-14
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