What is Max powder for a 50 cal Hawkin?
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Spike
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What is Max powder for a 50 cal Hawkin?
I went shooting yesterday and this is what I found. I loaded 90 grains of Triple 7 behind a 295 grain Powerbelt and shot 3 times WITHOUT cleaning between each shot. I got a group of about 2.75 inches for the 3 shots. I then tried 100 grains and did the same routine and got a group at about 1.5 inches for the 3 shots. I shot these shots at 50 yards. I then cleaned the barrel and tried a shot with 100 gains at 100 yards and hit 7/8" to the left of dead center. I then cleaned the barrel and fired at a gal. jug 100 yards away and hit it well. I then loaded another round, did not clean the barrel, and shot at and hit another gal. jug at 100 yards. I did not feel comfortable with trying to up the powder charge to say, 110 or even 105 grains. Can I go there or do I need to?
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RE: What is Max powder for a 50 cal Hawkin?
btw...I found a T/C manuel that I was given when I taught hunters safety...a .50 cal Hawken and a 370 maxi-ball...Max is 100 grains FF black powder....777 is about 15-20% stronger than bp...So you are actually over the published limit...
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RE: What is Max powder for a 50 cal Hawkin?
What is Max powder for a 50 cal Hawkin?
Some custom Hawkins, I have read posts of 150 grains of loose powder. Other rifles are technically limited to 100 grain of loose powder and 85 grains of the super loose powders such as Triple Se7en or Black Mag3.
Normally I suggest you keep .50 caliber Hawkins 110 grains or less. Most of the rifles will come in between 80 grains and 100 grains. This of course is dependent on the type of projectile used. It sounds like you have a good load working up there...
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RE: What is Max powder for a 50 cal Hawkin?
My book shows the max load is 110 grains of 2f powder for that rifle. My Hawkins shoots 90 grains of Goex 3f with a patched roundball and the accuracy is excellent. I use 4f as the pan prime. This would be a lethal load for about anything I would want to shoot...
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RE: What is Max powder for a 50 cal Hawkin?
I thought the recipie for max load on the older style slow twist rifels was 1 1/2 times bore diamiter , or 75 grains for a 50 cal ? . The manuel definately is what you want to go by .
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RE: What is Max powder for a 50 cal Hawkin?
ORIGINAL: nchawkeye
btw...I found a T/C manuel that I was given when I taught hunters safety...a .50 cal Hawken and a 370 maxi-ball...Max is 100 grains FF black powder....777 is about 15-20% stronger than bp...So you are actually over the published limit...
btw...I found a T/C manuel that I was given when I taught hunters safety...a .50 cal Hawken and a 370 maxi-ball...Max is 100 grains FF black powder....777 is about 15-20% stronger than bp...So you are actually over the published limit...
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RE: What is Max powder for a 50 cal Hawkin?
ORIGINAL: ijimmy
I thought the recipie for max load on the older style slow twist rifels was 1 1/2 times bore diamiter , or 75 grains for a 50 cal ? . The manuel definately is what you want to go by .
I thought the recipie for max load on the older style slow twist rifels was 1 1/2 times bore diamiter , or 75 grains for a 50 cal ? . The manuel definately is what you want to go by .
Of course, the Hawken rifles were made for and used with round balls,although it is possiblethat some Hawkens were shot withconical bullets of some sorttoward the end of the fur trade era. I'm not sure that there's any documented proof of this, however......