Zeiss over Leupold?
#31
You wont be disapointed with that choice, the extra power is really nice also. I have several of those same scopes on some of my rifles and couldnt be more pleased with them. I have them on my Ruger M77 MarkII 280 Rem, my Bushmaster Varmiter Special XM-15, Rem. 700 SPS 338 Ultra Mag., Rem 700 BDL 338 Win mag, Rem. 700 SPS 300 Ultra Mag, and I have a VXIII 6.5-20 Tgt on my Rem Sendero 300 Ultra Mag.. They perform great in low light conditions, great eye relief, get on target quick without looking for the sight picture, very durable, and should you EVER have any problems, Leupold is a pleasure to deal with, they really stand behind there products. I can afford any scope I want but you will only see Leupolds on my guns. Not saying there arent scopes out there that are as good, but if you find something that works why change? IMHO, They are the best, most durable hunting scopes on the market for there price.
#32
I picked up a 6.5-20x50 Conquest for $650, so that's pretty close to your price range and is an excellent scope!
#33
Spike
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: grand junction, co
Posts: 29
I am not personally a fan of the "new" Leupolds. I have a couple of VariXII's and VariXIII's and do not think the "VX" line is as good as the old ones.
The Conquests are nice glass too and I would choose one over the new Leupolds.
I also like the Monarchs (have a couple as well), cheaper and I think better than the Leupolds (again: the new "VX's").
I have also heard GREAT things about Meopta in both scopes and binoculars.
Have a Vortex Viper 6.5-20X44 on order as I have heard excellent things about them too and have used their binoculars right next to Swaro's in the field and they were close (but not quite) the glass. But they were also under $600.
The Conquests are nice glass too and I would choose one over the new Leupolds.
I also like the Monarchs (have a couple as well), cheaper and I think better than the Leupolds (again: the new "VX's").
I have also heard GREAT things about Meopta in both scopes and binoculars.
Have a Vortex Viper 6.5-20X44 on order as I have heard excellent things about them too and have used their binoculars right next to Swaro's in the field and they were close (but not quite) the glass. But they were also under $600.
#34
I am not personally a fan of the "new" Leupolds. I have a couple of VariXII's and VariXIII's and do not think the "VX" line is as good as the old ones.
The Conquests are nice glass too and I would choose one over the new Leupolds.
I also like the Monarchs (have a couple as well), cheaper and I think better than the Leupolds (again: the new "VX's").
I have also heard GREAT things about Meopta in both scopes and binoculars.
Have a Vortex Viper 6.5-20X44 on order as I have heard excellent things about them too and have used their binoculars right next to Swaro's in the field and they were close (but not quite) the glass. But they were also under $600.
The Conquests are nice glass too and I would choose one over the new Leupolds.
I also like the Monarchs (have a couple as well), cheaper and I think better than the Leupolds (again: the new "VX's").
I have also heard GREAT things about Meopta in both scopes and binoculars.
Have a Vortex Viper 6.5-20X44 on order as I have heard excellent things about them too and have used their binoculars right next to Swaro's in the field and they were close (but not quite) the glass. But they were also under $600.
Last edited by fritz1; 01-02-2011 at 03:20 PM.
#35
Spike
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: grand junction, co
Posts: 29
I know what they claim, what I see when I look through them does not bear it out though.
As I said: I feel the new VX line to be inferior to the old VariX line.
As was said already in this thread, much of it is in the eye of the beholder and arguing about glass is like arguing about politics or religion. I was just stating my opinion, much of it is subjective and cannot be "proven". That's why all of the statements in my post say "I feel" and "I think".
As I said: I feel the new VX line to be inferior to the old VariX line.
As was said already in this thread, much of it is in the eye of the beholder and arguing about glass is like arguing about politics or religion. I was just stating my opinion, much of it is subjective and cannot be "proven". That's why all of the statements in my post say "I feel" and "I think".
#36
Typical Buck
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#37
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: WY
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Nice photo, but I'm thinking "What? No bug-killed timber"?!
#39
Don't get all wrapped up in excessively high magnification at the expense of low end magnification. 10 - 12 power is more than enough magnification for big game hunting out to several hundred yards. I personally wouldn't want to go over 4X magnification on the low end unless it were on a long range specific rifle.
With a 50mm objective lens you are going to get in increasingly darker image when you get above 10X magnification. Just because you can crank it up to 18 or 20 times magnification doesn't mean you are going to be able to see what you are looking at.
Leave the high magnification scopes for the specialized long range and varmint rifles.
With a 50mm objective lens you are going to get in increasingly darker image when you get above 10X magnification. Just because you can crank it up to 18 or 20 times magnification doesn't mean you are going to be able to see what you are looking at.
Leave the high magnification scopes for the specialized long range and varmint rifles.
#40
Typical Buck
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Don't get all wrapped up in excessively high magnification at the expense of low end magnification. 10 - 12 power is more than enough magnification for big game hunting out to several hundred yards. I personally wouldn't want to go over 4X magnification on the low end unless it were on a long range specific rifle.
With a 50mm objective lens you are going to get in increasingly darker image when you get above 10X magnification. Just because you can crank it up to 18 or 20 times magnification doesn't mean you are going to be able to see what you are looking at.
Leave the high magnification scopes for the specialized long range and varmint rifles.
With a 50mm objective lens you are going to get in increasingly darker image when you get above 10X magnification. Just because you can crank it up to 18 or 20 times magnification doesn't mean you are going to be able to see what you are looking at.
Leave the high magnification scopes for the specialized long range and varmint rifles.