Accelerator Sabot help....
03-01-2011, 11:26 AM
#1
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Accelerator Sabot help....
I'm wanting to load the "Accelerator Sabot" in .308Win.
Any help on a suggested load? I am new to reloading also.
I'd be shooting Prarie Dogs/yotes/etc out to 1000 yds (if all goes well)
Also, should I get a special die for these sabots? Or do I really need that.
Any help on a suggested load? I am new to reloading also.
I'd be shooting Prarie Dogs/yotes/etc out to 1000 yds (if all goes well)
Also, should I get a special die for these sabots? Or do I really need that.
03-01-2011, 07:14 PM
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Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: WY
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1000 yards? Really?
What you're talking about here (a .308 with a .224 bullet in a sabot) isn't much different than a .22-250, just a shade hotter.
Just a quick check in LoadBase tells me that a 50 gr (BC = .232) .224 V-max driven at 4000 fps (which is about what I expect to achieve in velocity) will go subsonic at 760 yards, and drops a mere 421.1 inches (35 feet) at 1000 yards. Maybe I need to get a tapered base to get that much elevation out of my optics?
I've used a .22-250 out to 600 yards on the KD, but what steam it had left was barely enough to take the paint of the 12x12" steel plate.
The "die" you're probably referring to is the one used to seat the .224 bullets into the sabot. I've not tried it yet, but it looks to be a much better alternative to stuffing bullets into plastic sabots by hand.
There's actually some information out on the internet regarding such loads. I've had plenty of projects ahead of this one, not to mention plenty of loaded .223 and .22-250 to go through at the local dog towns before it's likely I'll load up any .308 sabots. It'd be interesting to load some up in my .300 Weatherby as well, but I'm guessing it'll be far from practical.
What you're talking about here (a .308 with a .224 bullet in a sabot) isn't much different than a .22-250, just a shade hotter.
Just a quick check in LoadBase tells me that a 50 gr (BC = .232) .224 V-max driven at 4000 fps (which is about what I expect to achieve in velocity) will go subsonic at 760 yards, and drops a mere 421.1 inches (35 feet) at 1000 yards. Maybe I need to get a tapered base to get that much elevation out of my optics?
I've used a .22-250 out to 600 yards on the KD, but what steam it had left was barely enough to take the paint of the 12x12" steel plate.
The "die" you're probably referring to is the one used to seat the .224 bullets into the sabot. I've not tried it yet, but it looks to be a much better alternative to stuffing bullets into plastic sabots by hand.
There's actually some information out on the internet regarding such loads. I've had plenty of projects ahead of this one, not to mention plenty of loaded .223 and .22-250 to go through at the local dog towns before it's likely I'll load up any .308 sabots. It'd be interesting to load some up in my .300 Weatherby as well, but I'm guessing it'll be far from practical.
03-02-2011, 07:47 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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Who makes the ready-to-load sabots with the bullets? Who makes the sabots? I've never looked for them in particular, but also don't ever remember seeing them in any reloading rags. Probably could achieve some velocity with them, but LR accuracy is a huge question to me......
03-02-2011, 08:18 AM
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Twice i have tried to work up accurate loads using the accelerator sabots in several .30-06 and .308 guns. The accuracy was never there. 2-3" groups at 100 yards does not a varmint round make.
03-02-2011, 01:35 PM
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Who makes the ready-to-load sabots with the bullets? Who makes the sabots? I've never looked for them in particular, but also don't ever remember seeing them in any reloading rags. Probably could achieve some velocity with them, but LR accuracy is a huge question to me......
The sabots I'm looking at are from Eabco.
http://www.eabco.com/store/products/...it-301-58.html
There are likely others.
03-02-2011, 03:21 PM
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I used to see Accelerators from Remmington in 30-30, but haven't looked lately. I don't think they make them anymore. And if they do, might be seasonal.
The sabots I'm looking at are from Eabco.
http://www.eabco.com/store/products/...it-301-58.html
There are likely others.
The sabots I'm looking at are from Eabco.
http://www.eabco.com/store/products/...it-301-58.html
There are likely others.