logo
 

Go Back   HuntingNet.com Forums > Firearms Forum > Reloading

Reloading Share techniques for reloading, where to get the hottest in reloading equipment and learn how to reload from fellow hunters.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-29-2004, 11:33 AM   #1
Fork Horn
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Finland
Posts: 216
Default How high ?

Here is dilemma for all of you who don't have nothing else to do? or who just can't refuce matematic task. which is nearly same thing.

You shoot 8g .308 bullet 800 m/s straight up. How high it goes? (don't mind about weather or sunlight .
__________________
"If adrenaline doesn't flow you don't feel alive"
-Lassi
John Bear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2004, 01:00 PM   #2
bigcountry
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default RE: How high ?

Deglecting the mass, and BC (which makes a big difference), I come up with 81.632s of flight. Then from that, I calculate using 9.8m/s/s of gravity, you would reach 32653.06m. Dad gone, I did something wrong.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2004, 05:13 PM   #3
Nontypical Buck
 
driftrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Coralville, IA. USA
Posts: 3,805
Default RE: How high ?

Well, if you don't take the effect of drag into account, and assume the force of gravity to be constant at 9.8m/s^2, then a bullet fired at 800m/s straight up would reach a max altitude of roughly 16,327m in 40.8 seconds. Total flight time is roughly 82 seconds.

If you have a graphing calculator (Texas Instruments TI-83 or similar) you can use the following parametric function to calculate the trajectory of a projectile sans drag(make sure the calculator is in degree and parametric graph modes). I do not (yet) know the function(s) necessary for accurately calculating the effect of drag on the bullet. I haven't gotten that far in calculus yet.

X(t)=(velocity in m/s)t*cos (launch angle in degrees)
Y(t)=(velocity in m/s)t*sin (launch angle in degrees) - 9.8t^2

So the functions I used for your calculation are:

X(t)=0 (because there is no horizontal component of velocity)
Y(t)=800t*sin 90 - 9.8t^2

Mike
driftrider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2004, 11:30 PM   #4
Nontypical Buck
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location:
Posts: 3,417
Default RE: How high ?

V^2=v^2+2(a)d

d=V^2-v^2
----------
2(a)

d=0-800^2
----------
2(9.8)

d=32653m

I believe Bigcountry is right. Good luck.
__________________
PROUD HUNTERS KILL THEIR GAME THEY DON'T HARVRST THEM!!
handloader1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2004, 09:50 AM   #5
Nontypical Buck
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Western Nebraska
Posts: 3,371
Default RE: How high ?

I agree with driftrider on the 82 seconds, but the average speed of 400m/sec times 82 is about double the height he has predicted.....I say the bullet reaches 32,800 meters.

The weight of the bullet isn't relevant for this type of calculation where air resistance is neglected.
Vapodog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2004, 01:21 PM   #6
Nontypical Buck
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Olive Branch MS USA
Posts: 1,032
Default RE: How high ?

32,000 some odd meters is over 18 miles. Is this your final answer?
Solitary Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2004, 01:55 PM   #7
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Fenton, MI
Posts: 88
Default RE: How high ?

I get 32,653m in height. Funny how much air resistance takes out of it, isn't it.

Using V=Vo + a*t
t = 81.63s

Using Y=Yo + Vo*t - (1/2)*g*t^2
Y = 32,653m
Quack Addict is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2004, 02:01 PM   #8
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Northern MN
Posts: 270
Default RE: How high ?

WWWWWOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW Guys, I took Trig, Calc, and a hell of a lot of Physics. 4 years of College, and 5 years of Professional school and I'm sitting here scratching my head goin' WTF[][&:]
__________________
Lifes to short to drink warm beer!

Ryan
firsttimeelkhunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2004, 03:36 PM   #9
bigcountry
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default RE: How high ?

Hey smartypants. Now add .277 Drag Coef with some air. Neqlecting that air is lighter the higher you go and neglecting the fact that BC changes over velocity. For a 8gram .308 bullets sierra calls for .277 BC less than 2800 but more than 2000fps. Let see who gets it first.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2004, 04:34 PM   #10
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location:
Posts: 547
Default RE: How high ?

if a 30-06 will travel 5miles then the 308 will go atleast 4.5 miles. But I'm sure you guys will let us know the exact yardage,feet, inches, and how long it took to hit the ground again. lol good post I got a laugh on it..
__________________
Take a youth hunting and preserve the future.
cherokee_outfitters is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
HOW HIGH IS TOO HIGH Fletch Bowhunting 9 09-08-2008 07:59 PM
Cops in high places...high enough to be above the law???? vc1111 Politics 13 12-11-2007 10:43 PM
How High? What to do? Muliefever Bowhunting 7 08-28-2007 10:52 PM
aim low hit high? deerslayer270 Bowhunting 35 07-07-2006 12:08 PM

 

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:27 AM.